The Forgotten Blessing

The Forgotten Blessing

Date: 11/04/2018 
Lines are being blurred between genders and gender roles ; society and religion create confusion, following their own dictates without much regard for what the Bible says. Female pastors, the Sabbath, speaking in tongues, medical marijuana : exactly what do the Scriptures have to say about these issues ? Listen as Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross search through the Old and New Testaments to find the answers directly from the Ultimate Authority - the Bible.
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Pastor Doug Batchelor: Hello friends, would you like to hear an amazing fact? On a clear December night, in 1899, the SS Warrimoo was quietly cutting its way through the water if the mid-Pacific Ocean. In the middle of the trip, between Vancouver to Australia, the captain gave some unusual orders. The pilot was told to stop the engine, then put it slightly in reverse until the ship sat perfectly still in the calm water. Using the stars and a compass, Captain John Phillips and the navigator checked and rechecked their location. At precisely midnight, local time, the Warrimoo lay exactly on the equator, at exactly the point where it crosses the International Date Line.

The consequences of this bizarre position were many. The forward part of the ship was in the southern hemisphere in the middle of summer, while the stern was in the northern hemisphere in the middle of winter. The date in the stern part of the ship was December 30, 1899. Near the bow, it was January 1, 1900. The ship was therefore not only in two different days, two different months, two different seasons, and two different years, but also in two different centuries, all at the same time. Moreover, the 32 passengers were cheated out of New Year's Eve celebrations one entire day, December 31, 1899, disappeared from the lives for all time.

They didn't seem to mind very much because those on board the Warrimoo, became the first people to greet the new century. Did you know the Bible talks about a lost day in history? Stay with us, friends, were going to learn more on this edition of Bible Answers Live.

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Doug: Welcome, listening friends, to Bible Answers Live. This is a live international interactive Bible study, and if you have a question relating to the word of God, the most important book in the world, then we're going to do our best to search the word together and find the answers. All you need to do is call that number, it's a free number, and here it is again, 800-463-7297. That's 800 God says. It just occurred to me, we've been on the air for so long now, we still have an 800 number. Everyone's got these other numbers now, but back when we did it, it was a toll-free number, and now they're all toll-free.

Yes, if you got a Bible question, one more time, got your pencil handy, give us a call. We got lines wide open right now. We got one or two people standing by, call us with your Bible questions. 800-463-7297. That's 800 God says. My name is Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Jean Ross: My name is Jean Ross. Good evening listening friends, and we'd also like to welcome those who are joining us on Facebook. I know we have a number of folks who are joining us across the country and around the world. A very warm welcome to you. Thank you for being part of our Bible study. Again, as Pastor Doug mentioned, if you have a Bible question, the phone line to call is 800-463-7297. Pastor Doug, let's start the program with prayer.

Dear Father in heaven, we thank you once again, that we have this opportunity to gather together and open up your word and just study. Thank you for your promise to be with us in Jesus name, amen.

Doug: Amen.

Jean: Pastor Doug, you opened the program with rather an amazing fact. Here is a ship, just so happens to be, as the century turns from the 1800s to the 1900s, and is in the very spot between, what did you say? The northern hemisphere, the southern hemisphere, between the International Date Line, between one day and another day, and the ship was sort of divided up into these four quadrants, as the earth has been divided. Quite an experience.

Doug: They didn't plan on doing it, but on the way to Australia, one of the crew said, "Captain, do you realize how close we're going to be to the dateline and the equator during our crossing, and during the change of the century?" The captain had a sense of humor. He said, "Well, let's just go a little bit out of our way and make history." He did. [laughs] I understand, Mark Twain was actually on that ship another day. He wasn't on the ship that day, but yes, the Warrimoo. That lost day of history, I was once traveling, March 8th, to Australia, and I landed March 10th.

I keep telling Karen, I'm actually a year younger than I am because my birthday is March 9th, and there was no March 9th on that trip because I just missed it on the dateline. She doesn't accept my argument though, but there is, biblically, a day that is often missing from people's experience. You read about it right there in the second chapter of Genesis, in the very beginning of the Bible. It says, "When God created the heavens and the earth in six days." Why do we have seven days in a week? He was finished after six days.

He made one more day to be a blessed holy day of rest. The time of worship, of time of recreation, a time for fellowship with our loved ones and other believers, and that's a day that in this busy society is often forgotten and neglected by a lot of people, and they miss that blessing that God has promised. He promised to bless that day. We have a free offer where people can learn about that blessing and receive it. When they read this, I hope they'll share it with their friends.

Jean: Yes, it's an Amazing Fact study guide, that's called, The Last Day of History. It talks about the special time that God had set it aside for worship, and to remember him being as our creator. Very important study. It's free. We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks. Again, the number to call is 800-463-7297, and you can ask for the study guide called The Last Day of History. Ready to go to the phone lines, our first caller this evening is Bill, listening in Chicago. Bill, welcome to the program.

Bill: Hi. Pastor Doug, Pastor Jean, how are you?

Doug: Good. Thank you for calling. Your question?

Bill: Yes, my question is, does the Bible say anything about the use of medical marijuana?

Doug: Yes, let me repeat this because I think you're not real close to your phone or there's some dropout, but the question is, does the Bible address medical marijuana? Of course, the word marijuana is nowhere in the scripture, and you don't find tobacco in the scripture. There's a lot of herbs and plants that aren't mentioned specifically. Really, the question is, is it appropriate, at some time, to use medicine? Now, most people, marijuana is kind of a hot topic, pardon the pun, these days, because a lot of people started claiming they were using marijuana for medicinal purposes, but it seemed like everybody had a backache.

I know that in Mendocino County, I actually got some property, Pastor Ross has been there with me. He'll testify I don't grow, but it's called the Emerald Triangle, up there with Mendocino County, Trinity, Shasta County. They grow much of the marijuana in North America. Seemed like all the neighbors, all of a sudden, needed medical marijuana, but a lot of it was to grow and to sell. There are some people who are using the medicinal value of tetrahydrocannabinol, just like aspirin comes from the bark of a tree, and there's a lot of drugs that are-- Originally, most drugs I think, comes from some sort of plant.

If a person is using the drug, genuinely prescribed by a doctor for some real medical value, there's nothing wrong with that. The Bible talks about the leaves of different plants are for healing, but when people start doing it habitually, the use of any drug habitually is not good. Usually, a drug is used habitually because another problem is being neglected. Now, I'm not a doctor. I'm just sharing that. That's the principle, but I also want to have everyone recognize the reality. Not everybody with a medical marijuana card really has a medical problem, and if they're smoking it, it's probably doing them more harm than good.

There's a principle. The Bible talks about the herb of the field could be used for different things. When, just a couple of strange examples, one, when Leah thought that she was infertile, her son brought some mandrakes, which was a plant, and bingo, she had a baby. I don't know if there's any value in that, but they did believe in using herbs for different things in the Bible, on occasion, but not habitually. I hope that helps a little bit, and we appreciate your question, Bill. We do have a book called God's Free Health Plan. It talks about some of the health principles you'll find in the Bible.

Jean: Yes, we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks, the number is 800-463-7297. That's actually the phone line here to the studio, but if you'd like to get that free resource, call 800-835-6747. That is our resource phone line, and you can ask for the study guide called God's Free Health Plan. Some biblical principles for health. Our next caller is June, listening from Spokane, Washington. June, welcome to the program.

June: Hi there. How are you guys?

Doug: Hi, good. Thanks for calling.

June: I wanted to know where, in the New Testament, does it say that we should continue to keep the Sabbath?

Doug: That's interesting you would ask that. I was just talking to Pastor Ross about that before we went on the air. Well, there's multiple places. First of all, when a young man came to Jesus, he said, "Good master, what shall I do that I might have eternal life?" You can find this in Mark chapter 10, and in Matthew, I can't remember the verse in Matthew, .

Jesus said, "Keep the commandments." He said, "Which ones?" Jesus began to quote from the 10 Commandments. Now, some have said, "Well, because the Sabbath is not specifically mentioned in the New Testament, you shouldn't keep it," but in reality, the Commandment, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain." Third commandment, is nowhere in the New Testament. What Christian would say it's okay to use the Lord's name in vain? I do believe that the Sabbath is in the New Testament. Here's an example.

When Jesus dies on the cross, it says, "They wouldn't finish embalming his body," and this is Luke 23, "They would not finish embalming his body, but they went home and kept the Sabbath, according to the commandment." Then it says in Acts chapter 13, "And on the Sabbath day, we went out of the city." I'm sorry, I think it's Acts 16. "On the Sabbath day, we went out of the city, by a river, where prayer was want to be made." Hebrews chapter four says, "There remains the keeping of the Sabbath for the people of God."

Jean: Jesus says in Matthew 24, "Pray that your flight be not in winter, neither on the Sabbath day.

Doug: Yes, there's just a lot of scriptures in the New Testament. There's a lot of debate that Jesus had with the religious leaders about the Sabbath. He would heal on the Sabbath, and there would be a big discussion, but never did Jesus say the Sabbath should not be kept. In all of those debates, he talks about how it should be kept. He never said you don't keep it. He said, "The son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath day." Jesus said, "I have kept my Father's Commandments." Jesus kept it. It says, the custom of Christ, "As his custom was, he entered into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up to read the scriptures." That's Mark chapter two or one. I'm getting old in the numbers, I get dyslexia, but that's actually in two verses, I believe. The custom of Christ.

Jean: Luke 4:16.

Doug: Yes, there you go. Are those enough to get you started, or would you like a study guide on that?

June: Yes, I would like that. That'd be great.

Doug: We'll be happy. We have a study guide, matter of fact, the one we offered tonight.

Jean: Yes, Last Day in History would be a great resource. Just call 800-835-6747. You can ask for the study guide called, Last Day in History. We also have a website called simply sabbathtruth.com. sabbathtruth.com. You can read the study guide for free online, at the website, along with a lot of additional information on the subject. Just sabbathtruth.com.

Doug: Thank you. We appreciate your call, June. God bless.

June: Great. Thank you.

Jean: Next caller that we have is Jerry, listening from Oregon. Jerry, welcome to the program.

Jerry: Yes, good evening Pastors Doug and Ross. My question pertains to the practice of providing feedback or rating vendors for online purchases. I recently ran into one that was extremely poor. The quality of the product was misrepresented, the communications demonstrated extreme surliness by the seller. Now, I'm to rate that individual, and future users will rely on the ratings, but we're asked to forgive and turn the cheek. So, you can see the predicament I'm in.

Doug: That's a good principle. In our relationships with other people, you should be as merciful as you can be, but it's not wrong to give an honest evaluation. Here's an example. An employee from, let's suppose I'm a business owner, and I've got an employee, and that employee is not a good employee. The employee is fired or quits or whatever, and he goes and applies somewhere else. The new employer calls us and they say, "Look, can you give a reference?" If I say, "This guy's just great." Well, that's not being Christian, that's being dishonest. You've got to give an honest objective.

You shouldn't be unkind, but you should give an honest objective evaluation, in fairness to the new employer, so he knows what he's getting into. As a Christian, you want to love people, and if people are going to buy this product and you realize, "Boy, that was a bad experience. I should be honest with folks and let them know." You don't have to be negative and hypercritical, but just say, "You know, here's the facts."

You're just sharing truth with people. I bought the product, I had these expectations, and it failed, and I was very disappointed. That's being honest. You know what that does? That makes the vendor improve their quality, and everybody benefits. There's no moral dilemma there. Do you see what I'm saying?

Jerry: Okay. Well, that's kind of the way I was thinking, but again, it's not going to be a--

Doug: Good question.

Jerry: Yes, okay. Thank you very much.

Doug: I appreciate that, Jerry, thank you. I don't think we've ever had that question, but that's a good question.

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Jean: Next caller that we have is Rudy, listening from San Bernardino, California. Rudy, welcome to the program.

Rudy: Thank you, pastors.

Doug: Yes, how can we help you tonight?

Rudy: My question is, I remember reading, I believe, the Old Testament where-- I can't remember who it was, but it said about the sun standing still and going back.

Doug: Yes, you've got two episodes where the sun was altered. One is in the book of Joshua chapter 10, and then you have an experience that is with King Hezekiah, where the sun went backwards. In Joshua's story, the sun simply paused, and it just seemed like it stood still for nearly a day, while the Israelites pressed a battle for 24 hours with some of the other Canaanites. It was a long battle, they were winning, Joshua saw that if they didn't finish the battle and completely route the enemy, they'd have to fight another day, and he prayed the sun might stand still, and it did.

That's different than when Hezekiah prayed, and I think that's Isaiah 39, is one place. It's in two-- The story of Isaiah and the sun is in-- I think it might be three places. It might be in 2nd Kings and Chronicles and in Isaiah 39. He prays, and I should Isaiah prays after healing Hezekiah, the sun goes backward 10 degrees, which is, I think about, it's like 20 minutes on the sundial. That was observed by even Babylonian astronomers, that then came to Jerusalem to ask if they knew about what caused this wonder in the heavens. You do have that story, happens twice in the Bible, or something connected with the sun.

Jean: Jeff, more about that, Rudy, you were asking about that story?

Rudy: No. I had an astronomy class one time, and the person teaching the class mentioned that something about how in the celestial calendar or time frame, that's annotated somehow.

Doug: That is, from what I've heard, that is a rumor. Ancient astronomers say there was a day missing. I've not seen any hard data on that. It's sort of like, Christian wives tale that keeps getting repeated. It sounds good, and encourages people, but it's not-- I've never seen data on that. By the way, the two verses about Hezekiah, and the sun going backwards, would be 2nd Kings 20:1-11. The other one, I think, is Isaiah chapter 38. I believe it happened, and it's recorded, like I said, not only by, in the Jewish scriptures, but the Babylonians responded to that, and it was something that was observed.

Now, there are traditions, sometimes something true in the Bible ends up making its way into legends in other cultures. There are other cultures that have legends that were based on this story in the Bible, and it's like the Bible talks about a flood where all the wicked were destroyed, where you get the Greek legend of Atlantis. Some of these other legends are based on biblical truth. That is an older truth.

Jean: All right. Well, thanks for your call, Rudy. Our next caller is O'Neill, listening in North Carolina. O'Neill, welcome to the program.

O'Neill: Hey, thank you for having me.

Doug: Yes, and your question?

O'Neill: What does the Bible say about the sale of unclean foods?

Doug: About the sale of unclean foods?

O'Neill: Yes.

Doug: If you're a believer, God does not want us consuming unclean foods, and I would think you would not want to be involved in buying or selling something that God says you shouldn't eat, for the benefit of others eating it. I know Christians, that sometimes they end up finding themselves at a supermarket where they've got to be a cashier, and the liquor and the cigarettes are going through, and they cringe whenever it happens. They also got celery and lettuce, but-- [laughs] I think Christians want to avoid being put in a situation where we're dispensing something we don't believe in. So, I don't know if that's answering what you're asking.

O'Neill: Yes, Sir.

Jean: There might be a bit of a distinction, as Pastor Doug mentioned, if someone is working in a grocery store, they're not the ones choosing what product is being carried, but one of the products that might be carried is something, unclean food, let's say for example, and you're just simply stacking the shelf or you're a cashier, that's a little different than if you own the store, and you're actually choosing what to buy and sell. I think there is a distinction there.

Doug: Yes, and I'm trying to think of some scriptures that, we need to avoid the appearance of evil. If we're telling someone not to do something, we wouldn't want to be buying it or selling it for others. Yes, I know someone that was trying to help a senior citizen, and they asked him like, "Look, I'm too old to go to the market. Here's my list. Can you get this for me?" They said, "Well, sure." They looked at the list and said, "Wow, I'd never eat that." But they're trying to help do a loving thing for a neighbor. Sometimes you want to do the loving thing, buy their pork and beans. [laughs] All right. Thank you very much for your question.

Jean: Thanks O'Neill. The next caller that we have is Lee, listening in Colorado. Lee, welcome to Bible Answers Live.

Lee: Hi, thank you pastor for having me.

Doug: Yes.

Lee: My question is, my husband is an abusive husband, physically and harsh words, but I love him so much. Is it okay to divorce? This is not a good relationship, but I want to keep the relationship with him. I want to win his soul for God.

Doug: Let me ask this question, Lee. Are you wanting the relationship to get better?

Lee: Yes.

Doug: Where this doesn't happen anymore? If you want the relationship to get better, there is another option between enduring abuse or divorce. That would be separation. Explain to your husband, "Look, I'm going to separate from you until you get counseling." That you don't want to be living in that situation anymore, and until he gets counseling, he's going to have to find another place or you're going to find another place, to let him know you're serious.

I don't think it's God's will for-- The Lord feels very strongly about marriage and wanting marriages to stay together, but I don't think it's God's will for any spouse to be a punching bag. Even verbal abuse can be very demeaning and vitriolic. You might have to practice some tough love, and tell him to get some counseling.

Lee: Yes. Don't you think that God wants us to forgive and help people like that?

Doug: Absolutely, forgive, but forgiving doesn't mean that you have to stay in a situation where you're being physically abused. Let me give you an example. I've got some people I've done business with, and I don't think they were very fair. They took advantage of me. I forgave them, but I'm not doing business with them anymore. You may forgive your husband, but you need to say, "What you're doing is wrong." Don't you want your husband to be saved?

Lee: Yes.

Doug: You want your husband to be saved, right?

Lee: Yes.

Doug: Is he a Christian?

Lee: He's a believer.

Doug: If he's a believer, part of that would be, love your wife. You don't love by being rough with people, and so if you want him to be saved, the loving thing for you to do for his salvation, he's got to repent to that sin. He's not going to until you make him realize it's not acceptable. You may need to explain to him. First, what you're going to do is say, "Look, you've got to promise me you're never going to do this again. If you do, I'm separating until you get counseling."

Lee: Actually, now I've been away from him for two months, but then he's back to his bad habit to alcohol and cigarettes.

Doug: There's another problem there. You know what I recommend? This is a kind of question that you probably don't want us to be dealing with in detail on a Bible Answer program. You need to find a local pastor, where you attend, or a counselor, and you need to get some counsel, Lee. Hopefully, your husband will join you, and he can, hopefully, find the victory over the-- One problem may be leading to the other.

Jean: We do have a study guide that is called Keys to a Happy Marriage. It lays out some very important principles. If you haven't had a chance to read that, I'd encourage you to call and ask for that, and we'll send that to you, and then as Pastor Doug says, in these type of specific instances, it's probably good to seek counsel from a good pastor who can guide you through this experience.

It is tough, keep it in prayer, keep trusting in the Lord, and he'll guide you. The number to call again, is 800-835-6747, and you can ask for that study guide called Keys to a Happy Marriage. I think you'll find some of the principles in there very helpful. I think our next caller that we have is Jerry, and he's listening from Alberta. Jerry, welcome to the program. We have just a few minutes here.

Jerry 2: Yes. I was just so impressed with the answer that you brought because I was just mentioning that exact slogan that marriage will succeed if you do it God's way. Tolerance is one thing. Abuse, I would rather somebody hit me, than emotionally scar me because they don't [crosstalk].

Doug: Hey, Jerry, we're going to run out of time before you get to your question, for our break.

Jerry 2: It was about, who do you guys consider the bear in Revelation?

Doug: Great question. In Revelation chapter 13, it talks about a beast that is partly like a bear, and that is based on Daniel chapter seven. It appears in Daniel seven first.

Jean: Yes, the first verses that we have the bear is, of course, Daniel chapter seven, and there, the bear represents the Medo-Persian Empire. It rose up after Babylon. Babylon is represented by the lion. So, you have the bear, which is Medo-Persia, followed by the leopard, which is Greece, followed by the dragon-like beast, which is pagan Rome. There's some parallels, of course, in Revelation as well, because it covers these same themes. The bear is Daniel chapter seven, and it references Medo-Persia. You get those three ribs in the mouth, which represent the kingdoms of Lydia-

Doug: Egypt, and Syria.

Jean: Very good. Hey, friends, don't go away. This is our mid-time break. We've got more Bible questions coming, and we're going to start with a run in just a moment. You can also be checking us out on Facebook right now.

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Doug: Welcome back, listening friends, to your Bible Answers Live. Not only listening friends, but we have watching friends too. We're coming to you from the Amazing Facts studio. A little, one of our offices we convert once a week for the live program, and you could be watching this, I don't know how edifying it is. We don't dress up in suits when we do this. We come in after studying our Bibles, and you can engage with us by going to the Amazing Facts Facebook page, and I think it's also on the Doug Batchelor Facebook page.

If you like what you see and what you hear, click share, and pass it around. We take Bible questions from people who are listening through Facebook, as well as those on the phone. My name is Doug Batchelor.

Jean: My name is Jean Ross. We have Ginger, who is listening from Nebraska. Ginger, welcome to the program.

Ginger: Hello, how are you?

Doug: Good. Your question tonight?

Ginger: My question is, either in a sermon that you had, Pastor Doug, or on your last Bible Answers Live program, you said there would be no children in heaven. Would that mean my grandfather and granddaughter, if they go to heaven, would be the same age?

Doug: No, I don't think I've ever said there's no children in heaven. I think maybe what people heard me say, as I'm reading the words of Jesus, that there are no new marriages in heaven. Jesus said, "They do not marry nor are they given in marriage." He's very explicit. In the resurrection, of course, they're going to be children alive when Jesus comes, that are translated, there will be children who are resurrected, that died while they were children or babies, and they'll be placed back in their mother's arms.

There are some verses in the Bible that, for instance, Malachi chapter four, talks about them going forth and growing up. You read in Isaiah, is it chapter 11? Where the little child will lead them, and the child will play, the nursing child will play on the hole of the venomous serpent.

Jean: It's Isaiah 11.

Doug: Yes. Then you read-- Where is it? Where it says, "Children will play in the streets of the New Jerusalem." That's Zephaniah, I think. There's a number of verses that talk about children being in heaven. The thing is, you don't hear about the new marriages and new births in the kingdom. Does that help a little?

Ginger: Okay.

Doug: That make sense?

Ginger: I was talking about no children in heaven, I was like, "Wait a minute, what?" [laughs]

Doug: No. Yes. Now, they will not say children forever. They'll ultimately grow up. When you get to heaven, you say, will grandma and grandpa, and everybody, all be the same age? People have lived longer lives in this life. We're going to take that gravitas with them, to the new body that God gives them. They will somehow have more experience, but they will not look old. They'll be forever youthful, but that with more experience.

Jean: All right, our next caller that we have, thank you for calling, Ginger. We have, I think it's Ashier or Aziyer from Folsom, California.

Aziyer: Hi, Pastor Doug.

Doug: Hi, how can we help you today?

Aziyer: Yes, I'm eight years and I have a question. Why can't we go to the theaters?

Doug: All right. Well, the question is, why can't we go to the movies or the theaters. People have probably heard me say before, in my evangelistic programs, that I think it's a better witness of Christians, do not go to the traditional movies. Most movies, for one thing, they're not rated in a way that it would honor God. Bible talks about the entertainment of the world, typically is not good. It doesn't mean you could never see something good that's been produced. Amazing Facts produces videos. There's some good videos you can watch.

Usually, when you go to the theater, you're paying a lot more for it, it's not always the best environment. An example would be, you can buy orange juice, Aziyer, in a supermarket, or you can buy orange juice at a bar where they sell alcohol, they will sell orange juice. You don't want to get your orange juice at a bar. It's not a good environment. It doesn't look like a good witness if you walk in there, and you're going to pay way too much for it.

If there is an occasional good movie or video that comes out, you can wait until it comes out on-- I used to say video, DVD now, and you can watch it in your home a lot cheaper. I don't think it's good for Christians to go to the typical movies. Does that make sense?

Aziyer: Yes.

Doug: All right.

Aziyer: I've another question.

Doug: You've got another question?

Aziyer: Yes. It's about, why can't we celebrate Halloween?

Doug: Christians, typically, there's a lot of good things for us to celebrate. Thanksgiving is a great holiday for Christians. A number of Christians think it's wonderful to remember the birth of Christ or the resurrection of Christ, and they do that Easter or Christmas. Some disagree with that because of the pagan trappings, but a lot of Christians recognize that if there is a holiday associated with diabolical and devilish things, Halloween, with all the dead bodies and the ghosts and the witches and the bones and the graves, and if you don't give me a treat, I'll give you a trick. It just doesn't have the Spirit of Christ about it.

If there's one holiday, all the TV channels are full of death movies, and scary movies, and blood and gore. If there's one holiday Christians should probably avoid, the Bible says in Ephesians, we should avoid the unfruitful works of darkness. Halloween is a holiday of darkness, and I don't think Christians should celebrate that. I don't think it makes Jesus happy. That's why. Thank you very much for your question. I appreciate that.

Jean: Our next caller that we have is June, listening in California. June, welcome to the program.

June 2: Hi, pastors?

John: Hi, and your question?

June 2: My question is this, I have this one pastor, and he says, "Why the youth are leaving the church," and he says, "Well, you just need to make the church more modern or contemporary." What do you think about that?

Doug: Well, that's not been our experience. Pastor Ross and I pastor a church, we've got a very strong youth program. We found what the youth really want is they want depth of meaning for worship to believe in God. They want teaching that gives them a purpose for their lives. The idea that you're going to keep them in church by entertaining them with music that sounds like the music of the world, but you just throw in some Christian words, we've not seen that that's successful. Even if it was successful, I don't think it's the right way to do it.

The Bible talks about teaching the young the word of God. Deuteronomy chapter six says, "Teach your children when they lay down, when they rise up, when they walk down the way, put the word of God on the door of your house." So, it really, it depends on the parents as much as anything, that there is morning and evening worship, that you surround your kids with the word of God, and they will grow up believing.

June 2: Okay. You're saying, the more modern, maybe not too very contemporary, just a little bit modern, do you think that's a bad idea also?

Doug: There's nothing wrong with being modern. In our church, we use electric lights. For years, they used candles. When they came up with electric lights, we said, "Hey, this is a good idea. Let's use them." And we use projectors. So, people can see the words on the screens, and they can see the scriptures up there, that I'm sharing. They got them in their Bible, they get the music words in their hymnal, and they can also see it. So, using technology, and doing things in a modern way, there's nothing with that.

I think we should use all kinds of innovative methods to reach young people and old people. We're using the Internet right now, and we're using computers and media and radio, but I don't think you need to sacrifice principles, and start using worldly music and worship styles, so that your worship program sounds like pandemonium hootenanny, and you just-- Yes, there should be a reverence there. I think that's the important thing. Amazing Facts used to have a book about drums and worship and music, and they can find that on our website, I think.

Jean: They can read it for free. Just go to the Amazing Facts website, just amazingfacts.org, and click on the free library, and I think the PDF version of the book is available. Talking about worship, different types of worship, what does the Bible say? That'll be helpful. Our next caller that we have is, I think, is Lowes, listening from California. Lowes, welcome to the program. Or Louse.

Lowes: Hi.

Doug: Hi. Yes.

Lowes: Hi, Pastor Doug?

Doug: Hi, and your question?

Lowes: The question is, and you said we are saved by grace alone?

Doug: Yes, we are saved by grace alone.

Lowes: Where do that obeying the 10 Commandments come in with that faith?

Doug: When we see how much Jesus loves us, the Bible says, "We love Him because He first loved us." When we see that He died to save us, and we are saved by His grace through faith in Him, that we want to keep his law. Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." If we love the Lord, we're going to want to obey Him, and if a person says, I believe it's in 1st John, if someone says, "I love the Lord," and he doesn't keep His commandments, he's a liar, and the truth is not in him. So, the evidence that you love the Lord, is you obey.

Lowes: Can you give me the text, please?

Doug: Yes, we can give you several. First of all, let me just, the one pass that I've mentioned, John 14:15, Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." John 14:23, Jesus said, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word." Then John 14:24, Jesus says, "He who does not love me, does not keep my word." It's pretty clear that here Jesus talks about genuine love for Him will be manifest in obedience. Obedience to His commandments. Jesus kept the Father's commandments, and the commandments, or the example given to us by Christ is that we ought to also keep God's commandments.

Jean: Absolutely. We have a book on that that we can share with Lowes, on the Written in Stone. It explains the law and faith. You know what would even be better? Is the book Does God's Grace Blot out His law?

Doug: We could recommend, if you would like a free copy, Lowes, if you call the number that Pastor Ross is going to share, or you can go to the website, we can provide that book.

Jean: The number to call is 800-835-6747, and you can ask for the book called Does God's grace blot out the law? The number is 800-835-6747. We've got Jessica, listening from Florida. Jessica, welcome to the program.

Jessica: Hi, thank you. I am calling because I have a question about 1st Corinthians chapter 14, that talks about the gift of tongues. Now, I understand there is a difference between what happened at Pentecost, with the different languages, that had talked about specific verbal languages that were spoken, but I was reading over 1st Corinthians 14, and it seems that there is a heavenly language between God and us. I just wanted a little bit more clarity on that, just to see if I'm headed in the right direction, or if I'm incorrect, or if I'm interpreting that incorrectly.

Doug: You're asking a great question. When I first became a Christian, at about 17 or 18, and I began to worship with my charismatic brothers and sisters, they were all speaking in tongues, and I couldn't understand what was going on because when I read in the book of Acts, it's very clear that these are known languages that they were given the ability to speak. Then you read in 1st Corinthians 14, and he talks about what's going on in the church in Corinth, and I saw it very different from what was happening in my church. For instance, Paul says in 1st Corinthians 14:5, he said, "He who speaks in a tongue, disedifies himself."

He goes on to say, "So, likewise," verse nine, "unless you utter by the tongue, words easy to be understood, how will it be known what is spoken? For you're speaking into the air." Paul says, "I'd rather speak 5000 words that you understand-- I'd rather speak a few words that you understand, than 10,000 in an unknown tongue." Through the whole chapter, he says, "Do not speak in tongues unless you have an interpreter." That's verse 13. Let him speaks in a tongue, pray that you might interpret. Just came back from Spain last week, and while I speak a little Spanish, not enough to preach, so while I was preaching, I'd say a few words, I'd pause, my translator would translate.

What was happening in the Corinthian church is there are all these different language groups because it was a city filled with a lot of Roman slaves from all over the empire, they spoke many languages, the services were becoming confusing, people were getting up and speaking in languages that were unknown to others there, and he said, "Look, you're better off speaking in a tongue that they can understand."

Jean: I think the context of that is made quite clear in verse 10, where Paul says, this is 1st Corinthians 14:10, he says, "There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance. Therefore, I do not know the meaning of the language. I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me." The context of what Paul is saying is, there are many languages, and if you have people speaking a language that nobody else knows, and the word language can also be translated, tongue, it doesn't edify the congregation. They speaking to themself. They're speaking in the wind, as he describes it.

Doug: Yes, and then he says-- Go ahead

Jessica: I'm sorry, what about chapter two, where it says that they are speaking in unknown tongue unto men, but unto God, for no man understandeth him. That's what is where I'm kind of hung up on that because I understand, again, the difference between languages, verbal languages, with different countries and different groups, but there is where it kind of goes a little bit into war. It's just like a one on one.

Doug: Well, let me give you an example of what Paul's talking about. If right now, I should say, [Hebrew language]. I'm speaking to God. That's a Jewish prayer. I'm not speaking to men. Nobody understands me, but that's a real language. It's Hebrew. So, this is exactly what Paul's talking about. Now, you know what I always think it's important to ask, Jessica, where in the Bible, do you see an example of people speaking in a language that they don't understand, and nobody around them understands?

What is the purpose of God giving us a language that we speak that we don't understand? The purpose of language is to communicate thought. Why would God give us a language we don't understand? When God cursed the people at Babel, they couldn't understand each other. At Pentecost, God reversed the curse and he gave the disciples the ability to speak in languages that people understood. Can I offer you a free book on the subject? That I wrote?

Jessica: Absolutely.

Doug: I really hope you'll read it. Anyone listening to this dialogue right now, that's listening to the program, we'll be happy to send it to you, you can read it for free. It's a book called Understanding Tongues.

Jean: We'll be happy to send that to anyone who calls and asks. All you'll have to do is call the number 800-835-6747, and you can ask for the book called Understanding Tongues, we'll be happy to send that out to anyone who calls and asks. The next caller that we have is Hannah, listening in Wisconsin. Hannah, welcome to the program.

Hannah: Hello.

Doug: Hi, thank you for your patience. Your question?

Hannah: Yes. I am wondering about women pastors. I am trying to deal with this, but I just can't bring it out of my mouth to say Pastor John, and Pastor June. It just seems like it's a phenomenon in this last century because when I've done any research, it started in the 1950s, where the first woman pastor was ordained in the United States. I go back to 1st Timothy three, Titus one, and pastors all tell me that was just cultural. That's the only thing they'll say to me is, that was just cultural. Most of the pastors I talk to are very much like, if it's in the word, I believe it. So, it is what it is, but when it comes to this, they don't agree.

Doug: Yes. I think I would have to agree with you. I think what's cultural is what's happening right now with the blurring of sexual distinctions in our society.

Hannah: Yes.

Doug: Who can deny that in the last 30 years, people have become very nebulous about the distinction between boy and girl, and men and women, in a broad spectrum? The very same arguments that are often used for women pastors, are the same arguments that are being now used, that it was just cultural in the Bible when God said homosexuality and same sex marriage was wrong. They say, "Well, that was just the culture back then." I agree with R.C. Sproul, who recently passed away, when he said that in his opinion, the push for women to be ordained as pastors is not driven by scripture. He said it was 100% driven by the cultural changes right now.

If you read in the Bible, there is no example of a woman serving in the capacity of a priest, no woman was ever ordained as a king, there was no woman that was chosen as an apostle, and all the elders were men in the Bible. So, if you want to go by the Bible, it's pretty clear God made a difference between men and women. Now, there's lots of opportunity for ministry for women, in the Bible, and you have women who are prophets in the Bible, but you don't ever see a woman offering sacrifice or doing the functions of a priest.

Hannah: Don't you think that this has been allowed into the church that's caused so much negative in the church right now?

Doug: Well, Hannah, let me tell you one more thing. I probably can't belabor this because we have folks lined up. All you've got to do is look at the history of nothing else. Every single church that has started compromising on this, meaning, the Presbyterians, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, their numbers have plummeted. Their numbers have been cut in half. The idea that ordaining women now to be pastors is somehow going to be the panacea that will grow the church, historically, has proven an abysmal failure. It doesn't work.

Whereas the Southern Baptists, who said, "We want to stick with the Bible," they're the largest Protestant denomination in North America. So, I think that Jesus, and you'll know by the fruits, this doctrine is not growing the church. I think it's not popular, but there needs to be a biblical distinction in the roles of men and women. Hey, I've got a free book I can send you, we do need to go to another caller. It's called Women in Ministry. It's one of our gift books, we can send it to you, you can read it online for free.

Jean: The number to call is 800-835-6747. Again, the book is called Women in Ministry. We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks. We have Anna, who's listening from New York. Anna, welcome to the program.

Anna: Hi, pastors.

Doug: Hi. Thanks for staying up.

Anna: No problem. My question is, why do you think God created Adam before Eve?

Doug: Well, following up on that last question, some people say that God creates his best work for last, and that he made man and then he said, "I think I can do better."

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Doug: My argument is, when you look at creation, you see that God makes everything in order of its complexity. He doesn't make the plants, which are more complex than the earth and the water, until the third day, and then he makes the animals on the sixth day. He makes the birds and the fish, and he makes the most complex thing, which is a woman. Really. Well, what I mean by that, they are complex. You're married to one, and so am I.

Jean: Yes, I know. [laughs]

Doug: Even a woman's body has three or four functions that a man's body doesn't have. They're very complex. You think of the chemical changes that take place for childbirth, it's a phenomenal thing. Not to mention the brains talking to each other, both sides of the brain. I think that God really wanted to enhance the love relationship of man and woman. God wanted Adam to know he was incomplete without Eve. That's why he named all the animals and he realized, "Hey, I'm missing something. I can't communicate with the animals the way I want to express myself, and share the paradise I'm in."

I just heard a man talk about that, he made an epic trip across Europe, on a train, and it was so wonderful. He said the sad thing was he was alone. He saw so many things, but there was no one to say, "Look at that. Look at that." It just kind of took the joy out of it. So, God gave man someone who would complete him, in a woman. That's a long answer. I don't know if it helped.

Anna: Yes, it did. Thank you.

Doug: All right, thanks a lot. I appreciate your question.

Jean: We've got Jill, listening in Michigan. Jill, welcome to the program.

Jill: Thank you. How're you doing?

Doug: Good. Thank you for calling.

Jill: You're welcome. Thanks for taking my call. I got a kind of, I guess, probably a simple question. [laughs] For you guys, not for me. I want to get back in church, I've been really kind of not really into the church scene so much, just my personal life kind of things going on. I want to know-- I've experienced a non-denominational, that's where I've been going to recently, and then before that, I got saved in an Apostolic Church, years before. I want to know, what is the best church?

I don't know if this is-- Well, maybe it's not that easy, but I want to know, what kind of church I should go to? Because I don't know if I need to go to church with an altar call because where I'm going now, they don't have an altar call, they will pray with you. I just want to be in the right church, because I feel like time is short, and that's what I need.

Doug: Very good. Great question. Hey, I'll tell you what, I'm going to give you an answer, but then I want you to follow up. Okay?

Jill: Exactly. Yes.

Doug: I'm going to send you a study guide, because I want your answer to be based on the Bible, and it's called The Bride of Christ. If you do this--

Jean: One more. I think that that's good, The Bride of Christ, but we also have a book called The Search for the True Church, that I think you'll find interesting, both free.

Jill: Okay.

Doug: Make sure, and ask for those, Jill, Pastor Ross is going to give you the information.

Jean: Yes, the number is 800-835-6747, and call and ask for the study guide called The Bride of Christ, as well as the book called The Search for the True Church. Pastor Doug, in the next few seconds, there's some basic principles that I think a person needs to bear in mind when they are looking for a church.

Doug: Yes. Did you want me to talk about those?

Jean: Yes.

Doug: Yes, you want a church that's going to be based on the scripture, and that you're going to be saved by faith in Jesus. That they're going to be teaching the full everlasting gospel that you'll be finding in the Gospels. The right balance of faith, love, and obedience. You don't hear much about holiness these days. We do appeals, don't do altar calls every week, we do appeals at our church almost every week. I think it's important to invite people to come to Christ. Especially if you see visitors are in the house, you never know. So, do send for those. They're free offers, Jill. I think that they'll really bless you. It's not a hard study. It'll answer your question very quickly.

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