The Continuous Life

The Continuous Life

Date: 10/20/2019 
Did God die ? Why would Jesus answer the prayers of demons ? Can I find total fulfillment in Christ alone ? So many questions, doubts and mysteries swirl in our minds when we start to study our Bibles. As you listen to this installment of Bible Answers Live, Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross guide callers through their doubts and confusions about these topics and others, including Bible translations, number meanings and more ! Tune in and study along with us !
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Pastor Doug Batchelor: Hello friends, would you like to hear an Amazing Fact? In August 2013, Tony Yahle was declared dead when his heart stopped beating for 45 minutes. After heroic efforts failed to revive the 37-year-old diesel mechanic, nurses invited the family in to see the body and to bid farewell. That's when Yahle's distraught teenage son, Lawrence, called his father "Dad, you're not going to die today."

Suddenly, he noticed a flicker on the heart monitor. Dr. Raja Nazir, his cardiologist at Kettering Medical Center, told ABC News, "I thought we better make another effort to revive him." Incredibly, the effort succeeded, and he soon had a normal heartbeat. Tony was back home in a few days, having no physical side effects from the experience, and then returned to work. Doctors think it might've been a viral infection.

Tony's wife, Melissa said ,she, Lawrence, and the people from their church who were praying, were certain they witnessed a miracle. Even the doctor used the word miracle to describe what occurred. The other interesting fact is that Tony Yahle had absolutely no memory of the entire ordeal from when he went to bed on August 4, until he woke up in the hospital. Why is it so many people claim supernatural visions when they have a near-death experience? Stay with us, friends, we're going to learn more on this edition of Bible Answers Live.

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Pastor Doug: Welcome listening friends to Bible Answers Live. If you have a Bible question, we'd encourage you to pick up the phone and call in, we will do our best to give you a Bible answer. 800-463-7297, that number is an acronym for 800-GOD-SAYS. 800-463-7297 brings you into the program. We're not only going out over hundreds of radio stations as SiriusXM satellite across the country, and Facebook, if you want to watch the program.

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Pastor Jean Ross: My name is Jean Ross, good evening, friends. Pastor Doug, as we always do, let's start the program with a prayer. Dear Father, once again, we are grateful for the opportunity to open up your word and study together, and we do pray that you would be with us here in the studio as we open the Bible and study and be with those who are listening, wherever they might be, in their car or at home. We pray, Lord, that we would, by your grace, be able to bring some clearer understanding to your word, for we ask this in Jesus name, amen.

Pastor Doug: Amen.

Pastor Jean: Pastor Doug, you opened the program by talking about one of those near-death experiences. This one, in particular, is rather remarkable where his heart stopped, not just for a few minutes, but for an extended period of time. What, about 40 minutes?

Pastor Doug: They say 45 minutes. His- [crosstalk]

Pastor Jean: 45 minutes.

Pastor Doug: -wife, who is a nurse, woke up in the morning, noticed he wasn't breathing, had no heartbeat. She called 911. They sent paramedics, tried to revive him all the way to the hospital, worked on him for half an hour at the hospital. They said, eventually, you have to just call it, they say there's nothing. They zapped him, they gave him the adrenalin, they did everything they do on their code cart. They said, "Well, better let the family say goodbye."

When the son came in, he pointed and shouted at his father, "Dad, you can't die today." Of course, he was just distraught. Then there was a little beep on the monitor, and he said "Look, I saw something." A minute later, it did it again. They said "Wow, what was that?" They saw there's a flicker, and they went to work on him. Soon they got his heart going again.

Pastor Jean: The amazing thing is there was no negative results.

Pastor Doug: It's incredible, he had no-- Usually, there's all kinds of pain and aches from the chest compressions and from the drugs. No heart damage, no cholesterol, he had no heart disease, 37. Woke up and said, "I feel fine." The doctor said, "This is a miracle." He'd never seen that before. The thing that was really interesting is usually you hear a story about that, someone who's out that long. The news is then going to say, "And he went to heaven for half an hour, and came back, and he saw everybody."

Or, "He went to hell, and came back, and wrote a book, and did a bunch of videos." We forget there's so many people that when they die, they don't have these near-death experiences. Why do so many people have these experiences? I don't want to discount that someone may- yes, the Lord could speak to him through a dream or a vision. God could do that for anyone. I know people that are getting their theology about death from somebody's near-death experience.

Science has done a number of studies where they've shown that when a person's heart stops beating, and their brain is robbed of oxygen, it is extremely common for them to hallucinate. A few things cause it-- Actually, the dying of brain cells causes hallucinations, they've discovered. When pilots pull too many Gs, they can pass out because there's not enough blood to the brain. It's very common. As a matter of fact, they studied a thousand cases, and these pilots have passed out.

When the pilot is pulling too many Gs, the co-pilot's in the back, and he doesn't have his pressure suit up, he'd lose his consciousness. They have euphoria, tunnel vision, out-of-body experiences, dream of these beautiful places. [chuckles] They go through a lot of the-- They see old friends and have conversations. It's almost identical to the people who say, "Wow. I had an experience." The interesting thing is around the world when people have near-death experiences, people in America who have a Christian background, they often have a Christian-themed near-death experience.

They see Jesus, and whatever. People in India, they might see Krishna. If you go to Thailand, they say, "Oh, yes. I nearly died, and Buddha spoke to me." It's like whatever's already in their brain, they hallucinate with. I'm just appealing to our friends out there, when you want to find out what happens when a person dies, please do not base your theology on somebody's experience when they die on the operating table, or in a car accident, or whatever the situation might be.

We don't get our theology from somebody who has a dream, and writes a book, or says I had this experience, because they all contradict each other. Some people have a near-death experience, and they say, "I was in a tunnel, and there were two lights, there's a blue light, and this voice says, 'If you want to be a boy in your next life, you go through this door, and then you go through the pink door if you want to be a girl.'" People have all kinds of crazy dreams. Don't get your theology from someone's near-death experience. If you want to know more about it, we've got a premium offer. Listen up, because we haven't offered this before.

Pastor Jean: We've got a magazine that's a new one that Amazing Facts developed. It's dealing with the subject of what happens when a person dies. It's called The Afterlife Mystery, and then the subtitle is Decoding Death, Hell, and Eternal Life. As Pastor Doug mentioned, we haven't offered this for free before, but we're doing that this evening. If you'd like to learn more about this important subject, especially Pastor Doug, this time of the year, we're coming up on October 31, of course, Halloween.

There's a lot of discussions about ghosts, and death, and what happens when a person dies. Well, this magazine addresses these from a biblical perspective, what does the Bible say on the subject. It's called The Afterlife Mystery, and we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks. The number is 800-835-6747, that is our resource phone line. Just call that number and ask for our free offer tonight, it's called The Afterlife Mystery, the magazine.

One more time, that's 800-835-6747, and if you have a Bible question, our phone line to the studio is 800-463-7297. With that, we're going to go to our first caller this evening. We've got Chris listening in Florida. Chris, welcome to the program.

Chris: Thank you so much, Pastors, good evening.

Pastor Doug: Good evening, thanks for calling.

Chris: I just had a question about Bible translation. King James Version is from 1611, right?

Pastor Doug: Right.

Chris: Versus Douay-Rheims 1602, whatever it was. Which one is more accurate? Which one we should go by?

Pastor Doug: You said the King James- what was the other version you mentioned?

Chris: Douay-Rheims version.

Pastor Doug: Oh, the Douay-Rheims version. Yes, that's the Catholic Bible. Well, I would go with the King James, if it's a choice between the two, because the Douay, or the Catholic Bible, has a number of what we would call apocryphal books that are included, that are not in the traditional Christian or Protestant-- They're viewed as suspicious.

They're books that are not referenced by any other Bible author, they seem to appear in history-- The Maccabees has some good historical information, but I'm talking about some of the other apocryphal books that you find between the testaments. I would stick with the King James Version, King James, New King James, they come from the textus receptus. Those would be your- I think your safer versions.

Chris: Martin Luther King translated this Romans. It's a part of King James version, right?

Pastor Doug: Yes. You don't mean Martin Luther King, he's the preacher. You mean Martin Luther. Martin Luther did- he did a German translation of Romans. The Book of Romans that we have in our English Bibles, I think it's based upon Wycliffe and and Tyndale's early translations, and the King James translators expanded on that. Pastor Ross, I think we've got a book that talks about the Bible that we'd be happy to send a free copy to Chris.

Pastor Jean: Yes. It's a book called The Ultimate Resource, it's all about the Bible and different translations, where they come from. We'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks. Again, the book is called The Ultimate Resource, and the phone number is 800-835-6747. Ask for the book The Ultimate Resource.

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Pastor Jean: We've got Bill listening in Illinois. Bill, welcome to the program.

Bill: Hi, Pastor Doug, Pastor Jean. How are you this evening?

Pastor Doug: Doing great.

Bill: I have a question. I'm reading the King James Version Bible, and I want to know if you can explain Deuteronomy 23:2.

Pastor Doug: Yes. It says there that someone of illegitimate birth shall not enter the assembly of the Lord, even to the tenth generation. None of his descendants shall enter the assembly of the Lord. You're wondering "Why would it say that someone who's illegitimate, it's not their fault, why should they not be able to enter the assembly of the Lord, even for generations?"

Bill: Right.

Pastor Doug: I've wondered about that, just to be honest. I think the reason that God did that is He was emphasizing to the people how important it was to have the marriage covenant, that as soon as society starts to acts like it doesn't matter, then it sends a message to parents. The parents' decision, or a man and a woman's decision to procreate outside of marriage has ramifications, even for the children. There's some pretty stern ideals that you find in Deuteronomy, then you don't later see any record of it being enforced.

For example, it says a Moabite was not to enter the congregation of the Lord. Well, Ruth was a Moabite, and of course, her great-grandson was David, and he built a temple. Jephthah, who was illegitimate, he was a judge. I think God is sending a signal here that when they came to the temple- and this may be more specifically, Pastor Ross, talking about the people who were to be participating in the sacrifice because they had some strong rules regarding the Levites.

I have to take a look at that. Yes, it's a good question, Bill. God was saying he felt very strongly about families, parents making that decision to procreate outside of a family could have ramifications for the offspring.

Bill: Oh, I see. All right, thank you.

Pastor Doug: All right, thanks a lot.

Pastor Jean: Next caller that we have is Travis, listening from South Carolina. Travis, welcome to the program.

Travis: Thank you, appreciate it. Good evening.

Pastor Doug: Hi.

Travis: My question, Pastor Doug, is directed towards you. I was watching Prophecy Code a couple of weeks ago, and I heard something that I've never heard before. You said that the American Indians also observed the seven-day week, or had a seven-day week, and the seventh day they called God's day. I was wondering where I could learn more about that.

Pastor Doug: Yes. Well, it wasn't all the Indians. There were hundreds of tribes, maybe thousands, in North America. I worked for about a year and a half with a Navajo. I think it was actually a Sioux that told me before, and the Navajo used the word belagana for a white person. Before the belagana came, said, "We had a seven day week." They would divide up the month in four parts, and technically, because they did it by the moon, and you got about 28 days in the lunar cycle, four times seven.

It's not exactly 28, but they just rounded it out, and they would divide up their month in sets of seven. Like I said, you go down to the Inca, you're going to find different calendars, and if you talk to the Aztec- but there were American Indian tribes that had a seven-day week. If you want to know more about it, I just say search the internet, and hopefully you can find something there.

Travis: Okay, appreciate it.

Pastor Doug: All right. Hey, thanks a lot.

Travis: You're welcome. Thank you.

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Pastor Jean: Next caller that we have is, let's see. Let's go to Calvin in Thousand Oaks, California. Calvin, welcome to the program.

Calvin: Well, hello, thank you for taking my call. I just had a question on 1John 5:16.

Pastor Doug: Okay. We're going there.

Calvin: All right.

Pastor Doug: Your question is?

Calvin: In the verse, it mentions something about death. There is a sin that does not lead to death, but then in Romans 6:23, it says "For the wages of sin is death." I was just wanting to understand that verse a little bit more.

Pastor Doug: Even though it says the wages for sin are death, we can be forgiven for most sin. The Bible says there is one sin, blasphemy against the holy scripture, which there is no forgiveness. If we grieve the Holy Spirit, we lose the capacity to repent, and then there's no forgiveness. This is a tough verse, but I think most people are thinking, and scholars that John is referencing here, the unpardonable sin. When a person commits the unpardonable sin, he said "You don't even need to pray about it." [chuckles]

There's some people that have just totally rejected the Lord. It's like the Pharaoh of Egypt. He just hardened his heart and grieve away the Holy Spirit. King Saul, God would not speak to him any more, and he ended up killing himself. Jesus told Judas it would be better that that man was not born. Even though Jesus went to wash his feet, he walked out and betrayed Christ. A person can get to the point where they reach that point of no return. Most people listening right now have not done that because you usually have no appetite for spiritual things at that point.

Calvin: Yes. Okay. It's speaking of-- [crosstalk]

Pastor Doug: I think it's talking about the unpardonable sin. I was just going to say that if you'd like, I have a book I can send you. It's called What is the Unpardonable Sin? I think it references this verse in there, if you'd like a free copy.

Pastor Jean: All right, thanks for your call, Calvin. The number to call is 800-835-6747, that is the resource phone line. Ask for the book What is the Unpardonable Sin? Again, that's 800, this is for anyone, 835-6747, and ask for the book What is the Unpardonable Sin? Our next caller that we have is Ruth Anne, listening from Michigan. Ruth Anne, welcome to the program.

Ruth Anne: Oh, thanks. This is the second time I called in a couple of years. [chuckles]

Pastor Doug: Thanks for calling.

Ruth Anne: I read the Bible. I try to read it about an hour at night, that's when it's the best time for me to read the Bible. I keep running across 7 and 70. Can you tell me what that means?

Pastor Doug: I saw your question, the screeners put it up here, and I typed in the number seven into my computerized Bible. The number seven appears 461 times in the Bible. You are right, it is-- [crosstalk]

Ruth Anne: Oh, really?

Pastor Doug: Yes. It is the most commonly repeated number in the Bible. Of course, you find it in Genesis, God makes the world in seven days. Then the number seven appears all the way through Revelation, where the last book in the Bible's got seven churches, seven trumpets, seven plagues, seven thunders, seven eyes, seven horns, that's just the beginning.

Pastor Jean: Seven seals.

Pastor Doug: Yes. [chuckles] A lot of the sevens. There were seven heads on the beast and-- [chuckles]

Pastor Jean: Seven plagues.

Ruth Anne: Oh, I forgot about that one.

Pastor Doug: Okay, we're going to each other here. I guess more sevens out of Revelation. [chuckles] It's a number that represents a complete cycle. It's God's perfect cycle. You get the week, seven days. God seems to always do things in a complete cycle of seven. Even said with forgiveness, you forgive 70 times 7, in the parable in Matthew 18. 70, it's 10 times 7. The other numbers that appear frequently you're going to run into are 12, 10, 3, and I think 40. You get like 40 generation, a lot of 40s in the Bible, that represents a generation. 12 represents the church.

Ruth Anne: Oh, I didn't know that.

Pastor Doug: You know what? I think if you look at our-- We've got a website called bibleuniverse, and if you go there, we've actually got a section, a tab that says Numbers in the Bible. There's a whole study on numbers in the Bible and what they mean. Take a look at bibleuniverse, and you'll find that there.

Ruth Anne: Thank you very much.

Pastor Doug: All right. Thanks, Ruth Anne, I appreciate your call.

Ruth Anne: Okay, have a blessed evening.

Pastor Doug: You too.

Ruth Anne: Bye, bye.

Pastor Jean: Next call that we have is we've got Michael listening in Miami, Florida. Michael, welcome to the program.

Michael: Hello, can you hear me?

Pastor Doug: Loud and clear. How are you doing?

Michael: All right, great. I suppose I got a bit of a preface to my question. I've been in this place lately, in my spirituality, I guess, you can say, where I'm not entirely certain of how much of my faith, because I obviously grew up in the church. I'm not entirely sure how much of my faith is based on my true personal conviction, as opposed to being based on just living, I guess what you can say, off of what people taught me to live like, just claiming to believe in something just because I was taught to believe it.

I suppose off of that basis, there's really a whole litany of questions that I could ask. The one that's been on my mind lately, because of why I'm in school, I'm a college student, a senior that is. I wanted to ask about Christians and movies. I'm a visual effects student, and the career path I, at least, I can see developing for myself is really toward the line of cinematic visual effects. I've always also had a great interest in fiction, and I'll just be upfront with it, like comic book type movies and stuff like that.

I know usually there's aversion, I think, in certain Christian circles about the violence and all the other stuff that's in there. Sometimes I'm wondering, is it just that a movie depicts violence or depicts certain things that makes it wrong or bad? In a story, I'm not entirely sure there should be some aversion to depicting things like violence because that's a part of reality, I suppose, at least for us now. I suppose I could pose this question in many different ways, but I'm just curious as to what your take is on movies and that sort of line of work?

Pastor Doug: Well, you've asked some good questions. Let me just divvy up your question, if I can. First of all, on the technical side, there's no question that God can communicate through the medium of film or digital or movies. We've actually got a motion graphic employee here at Amazing Facts, and we created a recent DVD--

Pastor Jean: Kingdoms in Time.

Pastor Doug: We use motion graphics. I've got a TV, but most of the TV programming I wouldn't recommend. A TV, like a book, most books are not good, but there are some good books. The Bible is a book. It's a medium of communication. Most of what you'll hear on the radio is probably nonsense, but you can hear Christian radio. The movie industry, that technology can be used to communicate truth. Most of what's out there is not good.

I don't go to movies because, for one thing, I don't think it's a good witness, they're expensive, and most of what you would see there, it's not good. If there is something good, it usually comes out a little later, and in a lot cheaper format. The heart of your question, there's several important issues. Bottom line is the Bible says whatever things are pure, noble, just, lovely, of good report, you have to apply that test there in Philippians to say, "Now, is what I'm creating, looking at, is it something that Jesus will bless? Is it good?"

Just apply that. It's not because of some church traditions are great, but you want to really back it up with a biblical principle. I think holiness would be the principle you would apply to whatever you do. Hey, thank you, Michael. We're going to try and squeeze in one more call before our mid program break. Pastor Ross, can we do it?

Pastor Jean: Yes. Let's go to Sarah in Sacramento. Sarah, welcome to the program.

Sarah: Hi, thanks for taking my call.

Pastor Doug: Yes, and your question?

Sarah: My question is, I know that you can be like 100% filled with God, but I know that he also says that it's not good for man to be alone, and so he created Eve for Adam. Does that mean if you don't get married, are you always missing something? Did God see that there was something missing, and so he created Eve, or--?

Pastor Doug: Well, certainly there was something missing if God wanted them to procreate, because that only happens through a partnership. There are a lot of great people that were spirit filled and complete through the Bible that were not married. Going from Daniel, to the Apostle Paul, to Jesus. In the normal order of things, for a family, it's best rounded out with the father and the mother.

I think any father who's missing a mother will say, "This is difficult to raise children." Or vice versa, a woman without the husband around. My mom largely raised my brother and I without my dad's help, at least his presence. That's part of God's perfect plan. When we have the Lord, He fills whatever vacuum there might be missing in a relationship.

Obviously, God creates people with a desire for that kind of companionship, but it doesn't mean they can't be complete without it. Keep in mind in heaven, Jesus said they'll neither marry nor given a marriage, and they're going to feel 100% fulfilled.

Sarah: Okay, great. Thank you.

Pastor Doug: All right, and thanks so much. Pastor Ross, I don't know if we'd be able to get in another call. Maybe we could mention our free offer again that we're making available tonight?

Pastor Jean: Yes, it's the magazine called The Afterlife Mystery, dealing with the subject of death, hell and eternal life from a biblical perspective, and we'll be happy to send this to anyone, it's free. The number to call is 800-835-6747, and ask for the magazine called The Afterlife Mystery.

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Pastor Doug: Welcome back listening friends to Bible Answers Live. If you have a Bible question, give us a call. 800-GOD-SAYS. 800-463-7297. Bring us your Bible question to our studio, here on the outskirts of Sacramento. Streaming around the world and bouncing off of satellites, you can give us a call with your Bible questions. My name is Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Jean: My name is Jean Ross. Next call that we have is Kelly, listening in Utah. Kelly, welcome into the program.

Kelly: Hello, thanks for taking my call. I just want to know how I can help a friend better understand the fear of God. She says that when she hears believers described themselves as God-fearing, she wonders why they should worship the same being that she hears so much.

Pastor Doug: Well, would you want to worship someone who is not awesome? When you think about how tremendous and big-- People overuse certain words, everything's awesome now. They say French fries are awesome, and they've taken away the impact of the words. God is such a powerful, omnipresent, omnipotent being that He's made the heavens of heavens. To think that, you shouldn't tremble at that thought, but you can love Him.

That's the dichotomy is God says you can come to Him. I love you more than a parent loves their child. Children might feel some fear of their father's strength and his discipline, but still love them, and crawl up into their lap. Jesus uses that word. He says, "When you pray, say Our Father." It's that kind of a love relationship that's sort of as a paradox where you've got the awesomeness of God. When prophets and others saw God face-to-face, they trembled. Just the majesty of it, all the glory, the brightness, but at the same time, they continued to worship Him and love Him.

Kelly: Yes.

Pastor Doug: Yes, it's a challenge.

Kelly: I mean, I just don't know if she's just being blinded by being an unbeliever, that she is not understanding.

Pastor Doug: Well, does she believe that if they're lost that people go to hell and burn forever and ever? Some people, it's not just that they fear God, they feel that He's cruel.

Kelly: Yes. She says that he's cruel, that like why, if God knows what's best, then for innocent children to be abused. [crosstalk] Just like that. Right.

Doug: Why does he allow these things to happen? What would be really good is if you could either send her the link to, or send her the DVD called Cosmic Conflict. It explains why is there evil in the world. If God is good and He's loving and He's powerful, why does He allow innocent people to suffer? It's a DVD that you can also see it online called Cosmic Conflict.

It explains this battle between good and evil, that God is loving, but there's an evil fiend roaming through the universe, go rampaging around our planet. Once she understands that every good and perfect gift comes from God, that God is not willing that any should perish, that Jesus and God are love, I think it might change her attitude. Yes, I'd recommend that.

Pastor Jean: Yes, Cosmic Conflict is great DVD. I think, Pastor Doug, it might be available in YouTube. If somebody just types it in, they might be able to see it there.

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Pastor Jean: Next caller that we have is William, listening from- it looks like Pineville, Louisiana. Yes, William, welcome to the program.

William: All right. Thank you, sir. I have a question. Well, actually, could you explain to me Revelation 4:8?

Pastor Doug: All right. Pastor Ross is our Revelation- our resident scholar. You want to take a stab at that, Pastor Ross?

Pastor Jean: [chuckles] Well, let me read it first. Revelation 4:8. It says, "Speaking about God's throne in heaven, the four living creatures, each having six wings, they were full of eyes around within, and they did not rest day or night saying, 'Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God almighty, who was, who is and who is to come.'" You're wondering who are these four living creatures?

William: Yes.

Pastor Jean: Well, you read on, but it describes these four living creatures in a little more detail. It says the first is likened unto a lion. He has the face of a lion. The second is a face of an ox. The third has a face of a man, and the fourth has the face of a flying eagle. Now remember, Revelation is a symbolic book, and a significance to the symbols that's used in the book of Revelation. It is describing God's throne, it's glorious. These four living creatures, otherwise sometimes referred to as seraphim, or cherubim.

You remember the Ark of the Covenant that was in the temple had two angels over the mercy seat, the mercy seat as a symbol of God's throne. These four living creatures, they represent something. Some have seen perhaps the illustration of the different phases of Christ ministry. You have the lion is often associated with royalty or kingship and symbolizes Jesus before the incarnation. You have an ox, which is an animal of burden, a beast burden, it's a sacrificial animal.

Some people see when Jesus came to the earth, he came to bear our sins and die of sacrifice. Then you have the man, and the man would represent Jesus, our high priest, now ministering for us in the heavenly sanctuary. An eagle often represents kingship and speed and power. Folks seeing that when Jesus comes again, he comes as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. In these four living creatures, they see full phases of Christ ministry, but it's part of the throne room, part of God's throne there in heaven.

William: Okay. They're symbolic then, correct?

Pastor Jean: Yes, they're symbolic, but it doesn't mean to say that they aren't these literal four living angels, or creatures surrounding God's throne.

William: Okay. All right. I appreciate it.

Pastor Jean: All right. Hey, thank you so much. Appreciate your call, William. Next caller we have is Zane listening in Colton, California. Zane, welcome to the program.

Zane: I had a question about- I forget what part it is in Daniel- but before Babylon fell, with Belshazzar and everything, the writing on the wall was Mene Mene- I think it's Mene- Tekel, Upharsin. My question is, is that a language you know, like was it Hebrew or something like that? Is that only the Babylonian understand it? Or is it like a language we don't know at all?

Pastor Doug: Well, that's a good question. Daniel was able to read it, and evidently it, it is parts of words in the Persian or Chaldean language. It may have even been a mixture of that in Aramaic, but it was one of the Semitic languages. The arrangement of the words left them wondering. The last word "Upharsin", and it says, "Your kingdom is given to the Medes and the Persians." Well, that can be drawn from that word Upharsin.

These were words, but they're just arranged like weighed, weighed, wanting, Persians. It's like it was an utterance that the person didn't know what does it mean. Each one of the words, Daniel says, he gives the interpretation. You are weighed in the balances and found wanting. Peres, your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and the Persians. He tells what the Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin means.

Pastor Jean: Now, this part of Daniel was written in Aramaic, and the words actually in Aramaic have a meaning. The word Mene literally means to number or to count. Same with Tekel, that's got a specific meaning. Even though word had a meaning, the question was, well, what does this really mean? What is it trying to say? That's why Daniel explained it and was actually able to add to it and explain, "Your kingdom is taken away and given to the Medes and the Persians." Now, obviously, not all of that is contained in the one word, but that's what it meant.

Pastor Doug: Yes. He needed to decipher what these code words were, but they were from real languages.

Zane: Okay. Thanks. That helps a lot.

Pastor Doug: All right, thanks. Appreciate your call. That opens up another line. If you have a Bible question, we still have 16 minutes to go. Give us a call, 800-463-7297.

Pastor Jean: Next caller that we have is Edna, listening from Grand Ledge, Michigan. Edna, welcome to the program.

Edna: Good evening, pastors.

Pastor Doug: Good evening.

Edna: Thank you for taking my phone calls. Now, the question that I have is Luke 8:31.

Pastor Doug: Okay. You want us to read that, and then we'll talk about what it means?

Edna: I would. Yes.

Pastor Doug: All right. I'm going there right now. It says in Luke 8:31-- I'm just getting there. Here we go. They begged him that he would not command them to go out into the abyss. This is when Jesus delivers the man who's called the demoniac. He was filled with demons. Christ asks the demons, "What is your name?" They say, "Legion." They, the demons, begged Jesus he would not command them to go out into- the word, abyss there.

It's a translated, same word you find in Revelation 24. It's abussos, and it means, well, the abyss, the emptiness, the nothingness. They use this bottomless pit in Revelation. You're wondering-- [crosstalk]

Edna: Could it be like a prison house for demons?

Pastor Doug: Well, in a sense, because the devil's a workaholic, and if you give him nothing to do, the Bible's-- Where's that verse, Pastor Ross? It says in everlasting chains that Satan's angels are reserved in everlasting chains of darkness. Either Jude or Peter or both. 2Peter, I forget. These demons, if they have nowhere to possess, Satan and his angels were cast to the earth. You find that in Revelation 12, and if they have no one to possess, a animal or a human, then they're bound by circumstances.

Edna: With that being said, then wouldn't it have been better for Jesus to have sent them into the abyss instead of into the swine? They weren't subject to death. All they did was-

Pastor Doug: Cause more problem.

Edna: -go into a bunch of and then come back up again. I don't understand why Jesus did that.

Pastor Doug: I'll answer that. Pastor Ross was going to read a verse and then-- [crosstalk]

Pastor Jean: Just those two verses you referred about the chain of darkness. It's referred to twice. 2Peter 2:4, and then also Jude chapter 6, speaking about the fallen angels. It talks about them being reserved in chains under darkness until the judgment day.

Pastor Doug: All right, Edna, the big question is why would Jesus answer the prayer of demons and let them go into the pigs where they caused all kinds of havoc? That is a great question. It's one of the only times in the Bible Jesus is connected with letting anything die. What happened is when the demons- and they figured there were at least 2,000 demons because in Matthew, it says there were 2,000 swine. When they filled the pigs, and they went berserk, and all ran off a steep place, and crashed down the cliff and drown.

The sea of Galilee is not that big. You can see across it, and it's surrounded by Jewish cities. If all of a sudden you have 2,000 bloated pig carcasses floating in a Jewish lake, that's what you call a toxic spill for Jews, because pigs are unclean. Everybody was wondering what was it that made the whole sea of Galilee unclean with all these dead pigs. Everybody heard the story of how Jesus set that man free. The devils thought, "Oh, we're going to make it where the locals asked Jesus to leave," which they did, but they didn't realize it was going to backfire, and more people heard about the miracle.

It's in all three, Matthew, Mark, Luke, all talk about this miracle of the demoniac being saved. That's why Jesus let it happen. I also think there's a spiritual lesson for us. The Bible says pigs are unclean, and devils are unclean. He took the unclean devils and he put them with the unclean pigs. They were raising those pigs not for pets, but for food. The Bible says they're not good food. He was able to kill several birds with one stone, or pigs with one stone. Anyway, that's a quick answer. Thanks so much, Edna. Great question.

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Pastor Jean: Next one that we have is Bobby, listening from- it looks like Virginia. Bobby, welcome to the program.

Bobby: Hey, how you're all doing today?

Pastor Doug: We're doing good, and your question?

Bobby: I just have a question because this man on , he has a lot of Bibles that he was explaining that before you can say Bible, you had to change 10% of the wording, or 10% of the verses, or take 10% of the books out of the Bible before you could get one published. Then they turned back around. He gave out the verses, and I looked them up in my Bible that I thought it was a good Bible, because I just got saved in 2013.

Pastor Doug: They're saying that there are some verses missing from the Bible?

Bobby: Yes, sure. Let me explain it. C-E-V Bible, it's got in there 1Samuel 21:19. I can't remember exactly how it says, but it says the kings killed Goliath, when John know better than that. I didn't realize that till I looked it up in my Bible. I haven't got that far in the Bible when I was reading it.

Pastor Doug: Well, that translation of the Bible that you're talking about there, I think it's a century version. That's not a good translation. If you stick with the King James translation, or the New King James translation, there's nothing missing from the Bible. There are some independent characters. Anybody can print a Bible. What I mean by that is anyone can claim I could go out and take a Bible and do whatever I want and I call it the Batchelor Bible. It's America, you can print it.

It doesn't mean it's accurate. If you want a good Bible that is sticking with the original manuscripts, then if you use King James, New King James, New American Standard, even the New English Version, they're all the same. They've all got the same verses. There's no missing verses. You're safe doing that. You get into some of the paraphrased Bibles, and they go out on a limb, and they say, "Well, there was this rare manuscript, and it had an extra verse." Really, the verse doesn't appear in any trustworthy manuscripts.

Bobby: That's how I explain it from the Bible. He says, "God says do not add to or take away from my work," and that's exactly what people are doing because of money.

Pastor Doug: You are right. There are people who are adding to and taking away from his word, and it says in both Deuteronomy, Proverbs, and in Revelation, that is serious business. Matter of fact, Revelation says God's going to add curses to people that delete from his word.

Pastor Jean: Bobby, we do have a book called the Ultimate Resource. I think you'll really enjoy it. It talks about different translations, where they come from. What a good, reliable translation. We'll be happy to send that to you. All you'll have to do is call and ask for it. The number to call is 800-835-6747, and ask for the book called the Ultimate Resource. That number again is 800-835-6747. Next caller that we have is Abraham, listening in L.A. Abraham, welcome to the program.

Pastor Doug: Abraham, you might have your phone muted. You're there? Can you hear me, Abraham?

Abraham: Hello?

Pastor Doug: Yes. Your question.

Abraham: Hey there, Pastor Doug. I just had a quick question about Deuteronomy 14, starting in verse 22.

Pastor Doug: Do you want me to read that for everybody?

Abraham: Yes, please.

Pastor Doug: You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year. And you shall eat before the Lord your God, in the place where He chooses to make His name abide, and the tithe of your grain and your new wine and your oil, of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. Is that the part?

Abraham: Oh, it's not that. It's the first part, and then I think a few more verses.

Pastor Doug: Verse 24, it says, and if the journey is too long for you, and you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the Lord your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, where the Lord your God has blessed you, then you shall exchange it for money, and take the money in your hand, and go to the place where the Lord your God chooses. And you'll spend that money for whatever your heart desires.

For oxen, sheep, wine, or similar drink, or whatever your heart desires, and there you shall eat there before the Lord your God, and you'll rejoice, you and your household. Is that the part?

Abraham: Yes. That's the part. I just wanted to understand that part there.

Pastor Doug: Now, were you wondering about the part where it says you can buy wine or similar drink?

Abraham: No. It was just the part about using the tithe for something else.

Pastor Doug: Okay, yes. Some people ask about the wine part, and I think, "Oh, is it okay to drink a strong drink?"

Abraham: Oh, no.

Pastor Doug: Some version has called that strong drink. It doesn't say that. You're asking about how can you take the tithe. This is a separate tithe that was for the annual feasts. This was not the regular tithe. They were to take some of that and use it to give to the poor or when they went to the feast to worship the Lord. Rather than carry sacrifices with them, they could convert it to money. It says when you get there, you can buy the ox, or the sheep, or whatever it is that you're going to offer- they'd offer there, and they'd be able to eat some of the sacrifice. The people used to get to eat some of their own sacrifice that they bring to the Lord.

Abraham: This is not referencing the 10%?

Pastor Doug: Yes, this is an additional tithe I think that relates to the feasts, the annual feasts.

Abraham: Okay, I understood. Got it, thank you.

Pastor Doug: All right, thanks so much. I appreciate your question.

Pastor Jean: Next caller that we have is Daniel, listening in Michigan. Daniel, welcome to the program.

Daniel: Well, good evening, sir.

Pastor Doug: Evening.

Daniel: I just have one thing I disagree with on the Bible. I don't necessarily disagree with it. I've never really totally comprehended it. For years, I've heard that we're only supposed to eat fruits, greens, and vegetables according to the Bible. Of course, I used to use mullet for bread years ago, which is different than wheat. It has gluten and all that. If people thought that animals had a soul, they wouldn't be so inclined to shoot them and eat them. Basically, my question is, is whether they have a soul. I know they're spiritual, but do they have a soul? Let me get to the point this way.

If there is a God, which I like to believe there is, and He has not brought us this far to let us down now, you got to ask yourself a question. If we are become symbolized the best that we can possibly be in God's eyes, and let's say that happens, and we asked ourselves why it takes so many thousands of years for human beings to get along with one another. I think the answer would be that we were so sadistic and abusive.

Pastor Doug: Daniel, we need to put this in a question. We're running out of time.

Daniel: Well, in other words, if there is a higher power, we look back and God has brought us this far, and let us down now. We look back and say, "well, okay, we're civilized as we can possibly be in God's eyes." We would look back and say, "Oh, why it takes so many years, thousands of years, people to get along?" I think the answer would be is that we did not understand our animals the way we should have. By doing so, we would've understand human nature much more.

Pastor Doug: All right. I did hear a question in there about whether an animal has a soul. I think you're saying that if people are civilized, then why are we butchering so many animals. It seems like- not to mention people butcher each other in war. My short answer would be that, of course, is not God's will. If you ever want to know what- and God, I can promise you, does exist. If you want to know what did God intend at the very beginning of the Bible, God made everything good, good, very good, people were not killing the animals.

Adam and Eve, they named the animals, they were companions. They loved them. Not only did God intend man to live forever, the animals were not going to die. They were going to live forever. The Bible tells us in heaven, the wolf will lay down with the lamb, the ox, and the lion and the fat lamb, meaning the calf. They'll all play together with a child. Nothing is going to hurt in heaven. I think that's Isaiah chapter 11. You're on the right track, Daniel, that God is saddened by the wickedness in the world.

The devil brought all kinds of pain to the creation, and God has developed a plan through the sacrifice of his son to save the world from sin and to restore the world to its original Edenic beauty. I think I sense in your question just the frustration with why there's the death and the pain and so many animals suffering. Here, we're supposed to be a civilized society. I, for one, am a vegetarian. I think Pastor Ross is a vegetarian, so we're not killing the animals. Anyway, hey, we thank you for your question. Oh, can we get one more in, Pastor Ross? I don't know, a quick one.

Pastor Jean: We got Robert from Walla Walla, Washington. Robert, thanks for your patience. You're on the air.

Robert: Hi, there.

Pastor Doug: Hi, Robert. We've got just 60 seconds. Can we do it?

Robert: Oh, hopefully. I have been waiting patiently. I was wanting to know why in John 5:19, did God the Father die?

Pastor Doug: In John 5:19? Well, God, the Father, did not die. I don't see anything in the Bible that says the Father died. You're talking about the verse where it says most assuredly, the son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do, for whatever He does, the son does. You're wondering, does that mean then because Jesus died, the Father must've died? I would simply say that-- [crosstalk]

Robert: That's why included another denomination say.

Pastor Doug: Yes, I don't believe that this verse is telling us that God, the Father, died. The Father, no doubt, was brokenhearted through the death of his son, but Jesus isn't referring to that when he's answering this question. If someone's teaching that, unfortunately, they're off course. Hey, listening friend. I apologize, Robert, give us another chance, give it another call for another night. We're running out of time for tonight's questions. Want to remind everybody that you'll notice we dedicate our time to answering questions. If you're blessed, if you're edified by this program join us and go online to Amazing Facts and keep us on the air.

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