Think Again

Think Again

Date: 10/27/2019 
The subject of life after death is always an intriguing matter. Tune in to this edition of Bible Answers Live to learn what God's word says on the topic, along with other themes such as female elders, the validity of the rapture and God's vengeance. Join Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross and open your Bible with us !
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Jean: Hello friends. Would you like to hear an amazing fact? Have you ever wished you can have a brain like Albert Einstein? Evidently, someone else wanted his brain so much, they stole it. Before the famous physicist died in 1955 at the age of 76, he gave specific instructions he wanted to be cremated, but the New Jersey pathologist, Dr. Thomas Harvey, who performed the autopsy thought it would be a shame to incinerate such a legendary brain. Without the family's permission, Harvey decided to remove and save Einstein's brain in the name of scientific research.

For decades, Dr. Harvey kept the genius' brain in a glass jar under a beer cooler. Eventually, he dissected a small part of Einstein's brain to create a thousand microscopic slide samples of the tissue to send to other brain researchers all over the world. Those scientists who examined the brain concluded it wasn't normal. While Einstein's brain weighed 10% less than the brain of an average adult male, yet the region of the brain that processes mathematical and spatial reasoning was 15% larger than an average brain. Einstein's brain also lacked the normal degenerative changes you'd find in a 76-year-old.

Still, the source of Einstein's genius remains a mystery. Dr. Harvey eventually donated the remainder of Einstein's brain to the pathology department at Princeton Hospital. One thing we can assure you, Einstein's brain is not thinking right now but the Bible says he will think again in the future. Stay with us friends, we're going to learn more on this edition of Bible Answers Live.

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Jean Ross: My name is Jean Ross. Good evening, friends, and pastor Doug. Let's start the program with prayer. Dear Father in heaven, once again, we are grateful that we have this opportunity to open up your word and study together. We do ask you a blessing upon this program. Be with those who are listening, some who are driving in their cars, others who are at home. We just pray, Lord, that you'd guide all of us into a clearer understanding of your word. Thank you for this opportunity in Jesus' name. Amen.

Doug: Amen.

Jean: Well, Pastor Doug, I'm sure everybody at some point, has thought to themselves, especially in school, especially kids, man, I wish I could be cleverer than I am. I wish I was as clever as Einstein and a lot of folks have wondered, well, what was it that he had? Was his mind somehow different than most people? Interesting there's a little bit of scientific study they've done on his brain. First of all, somebody who stole his brain and then did some further research.

Doug: He was a very interesting character. Some people say that he didn't even talk until he was four and then when he went to school, they kicked him out of several schools because they said he can't learn. He was just so far ahead. His mind was daydreaming about the physics of the universe and kids were either doing Play-Doh or whatever they did back then. A very interesting character. He'd frequently forget very basic things like what was my address? When he was thinking, he was always thinking so far outside the box with the physics of the universe. Some people say Einstein was a genius and he was an atheist. That is categorically not true.

In fact, he said many times, "My God created laws. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking but by immutable laws. The divine reveals itself in the physical world. Everyone who has seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, a spirit vastly superior to that of man." He certainly saw that there was the hand of the divine in the created universe. I mentioned that his brain is not thinking now because the Bible is pretty clear in Ecclesiastes 9. It says, "The living know they'll die, but the dead don't know anything".

The Bible tells us in Psalm 146 that "When a man dies, his breath goes forth and that very day his thoughts perish". Will Einstein think again? He will. Saved or lost, he'll think again because the Bible tells us, Jesus said in John 10, "The hour is coming in which all that are in their graves will hear His voice and come forth". There is a resurrection of the just, and there's a resurrection of the lost. One is the first resurrection of the saved and then there is the second resurrection. Revelation 20 talks about the lost of all ages. Everybody is going to think again at some point and a given an answer for the things they've done in their life.

Unlike what some people and even some churches teach, the people who die are not walking around haunting anybody in this world. Of course, we're at that time of year when people are decorating their yards with ghosts and tombstones and skeletons and all the trappings of death, folks find it a little creepy, but living know they'll die, dead don't know anything. If you'd like to know more about what the Bible says the state of man is between death and the resurrection, we have a free offer. I think I've only offered this one week before it's of a premium offer, beautifully illustrated magazine that talks about this.

Jean: The magazine is called The Afterlife Mystery and as pastor Doug mentioned, it's not something that we are able to offer every week, but we are offering it as a free resource for anyone who would call and ask. Again, the magazine is called The Afterlife Mystery and the subtitle is decoding death, hell and eternal life. We'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks. The number you need to call to ask for this free offer is (800) 835-6747. That is our resource phone line. Again, (800) 835-6747 and you want to ask for the magazine called The Afterlife Mystery and we'll be happy to send that out to anyone who calls and asks.

If you have a Bible question, phone lines are open, it looks like we have just a couple of lines still available. Good time to call in with your Bible question. The number is (800) 463-7297. Again, the phone line here to the studio, (800) 463-7297. Our first caller this evening is Noah listening in Illinois. Noah, welcome to the program.

Noah: Thank you for having me. I want to wish you guys a happy reformation day, which will be Thursday.

Jean: That's right.

Noah: My question is why do Christians allow their kids to participate in Halloween when in Ecclesiastics 9:5 and 1 Thessalonians talk about the state of the dead and how Halloween has zombies and all that.

Doug: I put a post on the amazing facts Facebook page. It's got like 450,000 views so far where I talk about Halloween. You may want to take a peek at that where are I give a little bit of the history of Halloween. I basically say that I don't think it's biblical or appropriate for Christians who-- there's a good lot of good holidays where we talk about Thanksgiving. That's great. Not everything from culture is bad, but Halloween is one that has so many evil trappings of death and witches and zombies and seances.

The Bible says avoid the works of darkness. Witches are condemned in the Bible. Mediums or spirit of seeking to communicate with the dead are condemned in the Bible. Why would a Christian want to participate in that? I know that the kids, they love to dress up and go out and treat or treat, but I think it's good to teach your kids that there are some overriding principles as a Christian where you have to be different. It's not wrong to tell them, look, you're going to have to stand up for your faith and then give reasons why. I would agree that it's not appropriate for Christians to participate in Halloween.

Jean: Of course, the verse that you referring to, Noah, is Ecclesiastes 9:5. We mentioned this at the beginning of the program. It's an important verse. Many are wondering, well, can the dead interact with the living? Ecclesiasts 9:5 says, "For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything". Neither have they any more reward for the memory of them is forgotten. The dead are, as the Bible describes it, in a condition of sleep, a dreamless sleep. The very next conscious thought is the resurrection for the righteous. It's the second coming. For the wicked, it's the second resurrection at the end of the 1000 years.

Doug: I think Noah would probably enjoy our magazine.

Jean: Yes, and that is a free offer for today. It's called The Afterlife Mystery and we'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks. The number is (800) 835-6747 and again, ask for our free offer called The afterlife Mystery. Subject of death and hell and eternal life, it's all contained in that magazine.

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Jean: Next caller that we have is Chris and he's listening from Lady Lake, Florida. Chris, welcome to the program.

Chris: Yes, thank you.

Doug: How can we help you tonight?

Chris: Hello, yes, I have a question. Matthew 24:9-14.

Doug: Would you like me to read some of that?

Chris: Would you, please?

Doug: It says Matthew 24:9, "Then they will deliver you up to be afflicted and kill you and you will be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. Then many will be offended and shall betray one another and hate one another. Many false prophets will rise and deceive many. And because iniquity will abound, the love of many will grow cold. He that endures to the end will be saved. This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world for witness into all nations and then shall the end come." What was your question specifically on that?

Chris: My question is about false prophets. Do you think that some of the preachers at church may fall under that definition of false prophets?

Doug: Yes, no question. There's not only in the world, but even in Christianity, for Jesus, when He said, there'll be false prophets, I don't think He was even referring to pagan prophets because the Jews believed every pagan prophet was false. He said there's going to be false prophets among you, just like there were false prophets in Israel, from the time of Christ to the time of Jeremiah and many before and after. There's going to be false prophets that claim to be believers in Christ that are going to deceive many. We see that today. Some of them have ended up in jail.

Chris: Yes. It's a sub question because a preacher at my church, I love his sermons. It seems like he's inspired by Holy Spirit and everything, but what he does at the back, not everybody likes.

Doug: Well, the main thing is, there are tests in the Bible of a true and a false prophet. Don't we have a lesson on that? It's in our lesson on psychics and astrologers.

Jean: That's right. It's called Does God inspire Astrologists and Psychics? It actually lists the test for a true prophet and its biblical principles. Of course, we'll be happy to send this to anyone who wants to learn more, and it's an important subject. Jesus warned us of these false prophets in the last days.

You can just ask for our study guide called Does God inspire Astrologists and Psychics? The number to call again is 800-835-6747. We'll be happy to send that study guide out on profits to anyone who calls and asks. Well, thank you for your call. Our next caller that we have is Lucy listening in South Carolina. Lucy, welcome to the program.

Lucy: Hi, how are you guys doing?

Jean: Good. Thank you for calling.

Lucy: Thank you for taking my call.

Jean: Your question?

Lucy: My question is who took Lucifer place in heaven when he was cast down?

Jean: Who replaced Lucifer when he was cast out and he became a devil? The Bible does not give a name. There's only two angels that are specifically named in the Bible, well, Lucifer is the light bearer, sometimes called Satan. It says you were that covering cherub talks about Gabriel. The word Gabriel means man of God.

Now, when it talks about Michael in the Bible, the word Michael is believed to be what they would call a Cristofori. Whenever Jesus appeared, prior to the incarnation, He appeared under the name Michael or the Angel of the Lord. Certainly, Jesus is eternal God.

Someone wondered, did Gabriel take Lucifer’s place? We don't know, the Bible does not say specifically. I'm sure that God's not holding the seat for him as though he's going to get it back. I'm sure whoever was next in line, there's some kind of order in the Bible, it seems to say there's order or rank among the angels, talks about the principalities and powers and it seems to suggest that both God’s angels and even Satan's angels, there's some organization and structure.

Lucy: Thank you so much.

Jean: I don't know who is next in line, the vice angel got promoted. Thanks. Great question, Lucy. Appreciate.

Doug: It does appear that Gabriel seems to play a very important role. You read about Gabriel who appears to Zachariah, I'm just thinking about the story in Zachariah where the angel was-- Zachariah asked, "Well, how do I know these things?" Gabriel says, "I'm the angel that stands in the presence of God."

Jean: In the presence of God.

Doug: That's right. It appears as though he's an angel that holds a high position.

Jean: Maybe in the highest.

Doug: Next caller that we have is, let's see, Michael is listening in Michigan. Michael, welcome to the program.

Michael: Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you both. I just want to say real quick for a quick question is about predestination.

Doug: You want to know does it exist? Or what does it mean?

Michael: Thank you for asking that, it actually doesn't even exist. I know that Paul refers to it in Romans 8, and I was arguing with a buddy not really arguing, but we were having a great conversation about it. He ended up using John 3, I believe, 5 and 6. It's about, when Nicodemus talking to Jesus.

Doug: The word predestination is used in the Bible, the big challenge is not, is it in the Bible? The big challenge is, what does it mean? Some have interpreted it to mean that God decided without the choice of man, God decided who He's going to save and who He’s not going to save and that Jesus-- I think this is what Calvin taught. Jesus only died for those who would ultimately be saved.

I don't find that in the Bible. I find the Bible saying that God does still respect the free choice and will of men that whosoever will, let him come and take the water of life freely. Even John 3:16, that whosoever believes in Him. Why would God say that we don't have a choice for a will-- if God has preprogrammed us to love Him, if He's preprogrammed as to either be saved or lost, why would God preprogram creatures to sin and then punish them for sinning? He almost then becomes an accomplice in that sense.

Michael: He is exactly. Go ahead.

Doug: I'm of the opinion, I would fall in the category, Pastor Ross as well, of like John Wesley, who believes that we do have a free choice that God has chosen, that He wants everyone saved. Many are called but few respond to the call. That's why it says few are chosen. It's a deep subject. Christians have been battling over this for millennia.

Jean: Yes. There's a little confusion in particularly in Romans where you read a verse, for example, in Romans 9:13, where Paul quotes the Old Testament and says, "Jacob, I've loved, Esau, I've hated." Some have wondered, well, is this some sort of a predestination?

Well, it's clear that God did choose Israel to be the nation through whom the Messiah would come. It wasn't because of any inherent goodness in the Israelites but God chose them. When Paul is talking about this idea of predestination in Romans, he's not referring to an individual's choice, rather, he's referring to the fact that God chose Israel to be the nation through whom He was to work.

It's not an individual type of thing, but rather, it's referring to the people as a whole, the nation as a whole. It was through the Jews that the Messiah would come. That was an arbitrary choice made by God, that through Abraham's seed, the Messiah would be born.

Jean: When Paul says, "I've chosen Jacob and not Esau." He's quoting the Old Testament where they're referring to the nations of Israel and Edom. Esau was carnally minded. He wanted the physical birthright and Jacob wanted a spiritual one. God said, look, Jacob is hungry for the blessing, the spiritual blessing, Esau was carnally minded. I chose Jacob. Ultimately, God's choice was still based on the choice of the ancestors.

Michael: Isn't it Peter that also said that Paul had to be carefully read and understood?

Jean: Exactly. 2 Peter 3 said, "Our beloved brother Paul says some things that are hard to understand." You notice it never says you got to struggle to understand James, he's really easy. Even Peter’s easy, but Paul was pretty deep. That's what education does to you. It makes you complicated. Paul was probably the most educated, but he said the most profound things. A good question. We do have a book that deals with the subject of predestination, and it's called Can a Saved Man Choose to be Lost?

Doug: If you'd like to receive a free copy of the book, the number to call for that is that (800) 835-6747 and again, you can ask for the book, Can a Saved Man Choose to be Lost? We'll be happy to send this to anyone who has a question about the subject. If you have a Bible question and would like to get your question on the program, this is still a good time to call. The number is (800) 463-7297. That, of course will bring you here to the studio. That's (800) 463-7297, we still got a good, I don't know, 35 minutes of taking your calls and giving Bible answers. Give us a call (800) 463-7297.

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Jean: We've got Jacob listening in Boise, Idaho. Jacob, welcome to the program.

Jacob: Thank you for having me. I have a question. I struggle with smoking. I smoke seriously a pack and a half, two packs a day and it's going to come to a time where my health is going to decline. I tried chewing gum. I tried doing all that stuff. I know I'm weak and I asked God to forgive me I'm weak. I asked Him to intercede on my behalf. Just take it away, just take it away from me. I know He says, "Ask and you shall receive." How come He hasn't just taking it away yet?

Doug: I don't know. You're talking to an ex-smoker. I understand it is very hard. Some have said it can be as hard as getting off heroin. A person who smoke cigarette, you can have an intelligent conversation with them but the addiction physically, it can be pretty serious. Let me tell you, it's like Mark Twain said, "Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it a hundred times. Staying quit is the hard thing." I quit several times before I quit for good. Praise the Lord, I have not had a cigarette in 40-something years now. I know it's a struggle and you got to keep at it. Finally, you're going to get to the point where you're just broken and you say, "Lord, I don't ever want to smoke another one." Some people do it several ways.

For anyone out there that's in this category, and I know there are many, right now there's a lot of people addicted to vaping. It's not just the old-fashioned cigarettes. There's a few things you can do. One is, God can take it away cold turkey. I've seen that happen. Sometimes it's a struggle but it gets easier every day and every week that you're off it until pretty soon, you don't think about it anymore, which is what happened to me.

I've seen people say, "I'm going to see if I can go and cut my cigarette intake in half." If you're smoking two packs a day, cut it in half and they wait a week, cut that in half and then they cut that in half. You try to taper like that. Now, that doesn't work for most people, but I've met people that it worked for. They just kept tapering. I knew a guy who smoked one cigarette a day. That's all he did, is one cigarette a day. I thought, "Why smoke?" Anyway, you can quit. You can be free. If it's okay with you, Jacob, I'd like to have a quick prayer with you before we sign you off. Is that all right?

Jacob: Yes. I just got goosebumps on my shoulders when you said that, so definitely, yes.

Doug: All right. Let me have a quick prayer with you. Father in heaven, we just want to pray for Jacob and many like him that are struggling with an addiction like smoking. We know that Jesus came to set the captives free, that you are able to break the chains. We believe greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world. I pray you'll remove the desire and should temptation come, give him the strength. You promised we won't be tempted above what we're able to bear but you'll provide a way of escape. Just give him wisdom how he can keep himself preoccupied and be free of this costly addiction that's also costing his health. We thank you and ask in Jesus name. Amen.

All right, Jacob, hey, we'll pray that you can be free of that. We got a book we'd like to send you that I think you'll find encouraging. It's called The Power of a Positive No. Ask for that book, The Power of a Positive No, we'll send you a free copy.

Jean: The number to call for that is (800) 835-6747. Again, ask for the book called The Power of a Positive No. Jacob, this is for you or anyone wanting to gain the victory over some temptation, The Power of a Positive No. Pastor Doug, I noticed we do have another book that might be helpful. It's called Tips to Resisting Temptation that's got some practical biblical principles in there and we can send that as well. Just call and ask for the book, Tips to Resisting Temptation. The number again, is (800) 835-6747. Next caller that we have is Esther in Southern California. Esther, welcome to the program.

Esther: Thank you.

Jean: Hi.

Esther: First of all, I’d like to tell Jacob that I will be praying for him from California.

Jean: Thank you.

Esther: I wish him well.

Jean: Bless your heart.

Esther: Pastor Batchelor, my question is, how many angels was each individual person assigned?

Doug: We can speculate a little bit. There is a verse where Jesus said, "Their angels do always behold," and that's in Matthew 18:10, "Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say unto you that in heaven, their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven." When he says, "Their angels," it's a possessive term. It means that these children all have a guardian angel assigned, whether it's one angel. Jesus tells us in Matthew 12, every idle word we speak we’ll give an account of in the judgment.

Some have wondered, "Do we have a recording angel plus a guardian angel?" Or, "If a person is under special temptation, does God send more than one angel to protect them from Lucifer's demons and minions that are there?" We don't know, but I do believe that every person has at least one guardian angel. There may be some high profile people that have more than one. Have you got any thoughts on that, Pastor Ross?

Jean: I'm just looking at a couple of other references and it is interesting that angels do sometimes seem to connect to an individual. I'm just thinking, in Acts Chapter 5, you have the story of an angel that came and rescued Peter out of prison. In Acts Chapter 5:19, it talks about this angel that came by night and opened the prison doors. It almost gives the sense that this angel knew Peter very well and was there to protect and answer the prayers of those who were praying. Yes, there's many examples of angels being involved in saving people.

Doug: There's also one other verse I'm thinking of that might be plural is Psalms 91 where it says, "He will give His angels charge over thee to keep you in all your ways."

Esther: Charge over thee.

Doug: There's another verse, Pastor Ross might find, but it's called, "The angel of the Lord encamps around about those that fear Him and delivers them."

Jean: Yes, Psalms 34:7.

Doug: Definitely, guardian angels. I feel better just talking about it. Thanks for asking that question. We appreciate, Esther. We're coming up on a break now, so we're going to be taken a lots more calls, but that's up to you, friends. Call in with your questions. We’ll be right back.

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Doug: Welcome back listening, friends to Bible answers live and we do have phone lines still open, got a few people queued up ready to take the adventure of Bible Answers Live. Call in with your question (800) 463-7297 pastor Ross and I were just saying we had phone calls are a little light tonight and it occurred to us well, we got two million people in California with no power. I hope that's affecting charging their cell phones or what's going on here. We are having some serious fires and a lot of wind so that is turned off the power. Pastor Ross has no power at home. We're going to go two hours tonight with Bible question.

Jean: We're in the darkness out there. I'm glad we got power here.

Doug: All right. Who's next in line.

Jean: We've got Ed listening in Chicago. Ed, welcome to the program.

Ed: Hey guys, I love you both. Thank you for taking my call. I have a quick question for you. I was nominated head elder of my church. This will be my third year. This time I decided not to accept the role because they nominated two female elders. I have found now evidence in the Bible that that was right. My question is if I did it wrong by not accepting it because again, I don't believe there's any Bible evidence for that.

Doug: Well, that's a good question. First of all, I would agree with you that there is no Bible example. I should back up elder, bishop, pastor we're all the same in the Bible. A few years ago, I was part of a study group at a university to find out, is there a difference between pastor, elder, bishop and they're all the same in the Bible. There were apostles.

You might have evangelist, you had deacons. Then there were the pastors of the elders of the church. They were pretty much the same thing. They were the overseers.

There's no example in the Bible of a woman being ordained in any of those capacities or being called. Matter of fact, one of the criteria is it says that an elder must be the husband of one wife. It says that also about a deacon while there's plenty of roles in the Bible of women in ministry even as prophetess, there's no example of a woman serving as a priest, apostle, pastor in the Bible.

If your church is doing something that you have an issue with, of course you would want to appeal. Whether that means that you should not serve because they're doing something wrong, the Holy Spirit's going to have to ask you that. There are cases where a church family may make some unbiblical decisions, there are varying degrees of unbiblical decisions. I want to be careful not to be your conscience on that because I don't know how the Lord's leading you. It might've been important for you to make a statement that you needed to stand like that. I go to China and so many of the churches in China, the men can't attend because they have to work six days a week.

I've worked with women pastors. Now, they weren't ordained necessarily, but the women are taking a leading role in organizing the churches there. While I might not always agree, we work together and had some successful meetings. I hope I'm making sense where I might be rambling.

Ed: No, you're making sense. Can I ask a follow-up question regarding the same thing?

Doug: Sure.

Ed: The thought that comes to my mind is okay you know what, they can do whatever they want. I think anybody can do my role. It's not that they need me specifically to be the head elder. I think I bring some good things to the table, but it's not necessarily me that they need. Then I keep wondering, is this a satanic thought just to get me out of the way. Should I stay? I don't know.

Doug: You've may have already given an answer and dealt with it and it could be water under the bridge. If you're still grappling with it, I'd ask them for a few days to give an answer and then pray about it. If you're going to be uncomfortable working with a lady elder and she's going to feel that tension, then you might just say, "It probably isn't the healthiest thing for me to take that position."

I'm not sure. You know what I can do is we'll send you a book I have that's called Women in Ministry. You can take a look at that see if you get some ideas from it, Ed, and we'll just pray God gives you wisdom. It's a tough situation. A lot of churches I've served in, they had some things going on that I didn't always support. I thought, well, what is it? Augustine that said, "We need to have charity in certain things and be rigid and other things and have love in all things."

There's some points of doctrine, you don't want to say I'm not going to this church because they don't agree with me on the 144,000 because there's going to be areas where there's disagreement. Then there are some non-negotiable essentials. I do think that this push of feminism in North America is affecting the church in an unhealthy way and society. You'll just have to decide whether what the steps are to take on that one. Pastor Ross will tell you about the book.

Jean: The book, I'll be happy to send it to you, Ed, or anyone wanting to learn more about this. It's a good Bible-based book that's entitled God's Role for Women in Ministry. The number to call for that is (800) 835-6747. Again, you can ask for the book God's Role for Women in Ministry. I think you'll find it an encouragement and a blessing to anyone who reads the book. Next one that we have is Daryl listening from Florida. Daryl. Welcome to the program.

Daryl: Hey, pastor jean Ross and pastor Doug Batchelor. My dad and I were discussing Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 9:27 reads, "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week" now. Isn't that the seven-year ministry of Jesus?

Doug: Yes.

Daryl: Then it says, but in the middle of the week, He shall bring an end to the sacrifice and offering. That's after three and a half years of Jesus' ministry. He died on the cross. Then the second-half of that three and a half year ministry, that's when Stephen was stoned and then the disciples preached to the Gentiles, correct?

Doug: Yes.

Daryl: Now, why is that only like three and a half year because the preaching work is still done to this day?

Doug: Well, there were three and a half years. It says 70 weeks would be confirmed or cutoff for your people, the Jewish nation. They were going to have the special privilege of being the ones who would welcome and proclaim the Messiah. Jesus was anointed with the Holy spirit at His baptism. He confirmed the covenant with the Jewish nation. The covenant being that the Savior of the world would come through the seed of Abraham for seven years. Three and a half years in person. He died on the cross. The veil in the temple was ripped. He caused the sacrifice to cease. He fulfilled that sacrifice.

Then he told the apostles, "Do not go in the way of the Gentiles." Not yet, He said go first to the lost sheep of the house of Israel for the next three and a half years until the stoning of Stephen. Exactly three and a half years later, they only preached to Jews. Then after the stoning of Stephen, Paul is converted. Peter goes to the Gentiles namely Cornelius and the gospel then spreads everywhere. It's just talking about that there would be this last week cutoff in a special way for the Jewish nation to hear the gospel after the Messiah had come.

Ed: At the end of that last three and a half years, was there any type of benchmark?

Doug: Yes. With the stoning of Stephen, now, look happens in acts chapter seven. When Stephen is stoned, it's a repeat of what happened after three and a half years of Christ's ministry. Jesus was falsely accused. He was arrested. He was tried by the same court as Stephen. It says there's clothing that was taken from Christ. It says they laid the clothes at the feet of Paul when Stephen was stoned. Jesus says, "Father, forgive them." Stephen says, "Lord lay, not this sin to their charge."

The Holy Spirit is poured out afterward in a special way. When Christ dies on the cross and then the Holy Spirit is poured out on the Gentiles in Cornelius's house after Stephen dies. There's so many parallels between the three and a half years of Jesus and then the three and a half years of Stephen. We've a lesson on this we can send you too.

Ed: What about, on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes desolate, what does that mean?

Doug: Well, the Roman power that was responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. They were the abomination of desolation. You can read about in Luke when it says, "When you see Jerusalem encompassed with armies, then know the desolation thereof is nigh." Jesus said those that be in Judea, flee into to the mountains, the Romans ultimately came and destroyed the temple.

After the stoning of Stephen there was-- Let me back up. This is a deep prophecy. Jesus said after the disciples showed in the temple, "This generation will not pass away till all these things before fulfilled, namely not one stone being left on another in the temple.

A generation of the bible is 40 years. Jesus made that prediction in about 30 A.D. In 70 A.D. the Romans destroyed the temple and there was not one stone left upon another. That prophecy was remarkably fulfilled. Those are two overlapping prophecies between Daniel 9 and the abomination of desolation. Jesus refers to the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24. That said a whole lot on this. Pastor Ross, we have a lesson that talks about the sanctuary and the 490 prophecy.

Jean: We do. The study is called Right on Time and it deals with this very important prophecy you find in Daniel 9. If you'd like to receive a copy of the study guide, the number to call is 800-835-6747. Again, ask for the study guide called Right on Time we'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks. Again, that number is 800-835-6747.

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Jean: Next caller that we have is Lisa. Lisa in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Lisa, welcome to the program.

Lisa: Yes. Thank you.

Doug: Yes. Your question tonight.

Lisa: Something to do with the Communion. I had a discussion with a friend and he believes that you could have Communion every day and I tried to discuss that it wasn’t recommended.

Doug: Well, keep in mind when you have a certain sacred ordinance that if you do some things in repetition, it becomes meaningless. Jesus told us don’t even pray in repetition. With the Jewish sacred calendar, they have their feasts and their special occasions annually. When Jesus had the last supper, it was a Passover feast and the Passover normally was done once a year. It's okay. Jesus said as often you do this, do it in remembrance of me. I think that if a person is doing it every day or even every week, it gets to be a ritual that starts losing its impact and its meaning.

It'll be like telling your kid we're going to have your birthday every day and it's like, wow man, I'm so tired of my birthday. It stops being special. I don’t see any example in the Bible of them doing it every day. One place says they broke bread from house to house daily. That's not talking about Communion. It means they ate together every day. They were having studies. It's not talking about having Communion daily. Some people have read that and breaking bread sometimes mean simply eating. Jesus broke the bread and He multiplied it and He fed people. Breaking bread did not always mean a Communion service.

Lisa: When is the time of Communion?

Doug: Well, in our church we general have our biggest Communion service in the springtime when you would normally have the Passover. It doesn’t have to be on that date. We usually do it three times a year because some people can't make it, they're traveling and we want to make sure everybody gets to participate at least once a year. That’s what our philosophy is.

Lisa: Does that include the washing of feet?

Doug: Yes. Jesus said, if I, your Lord and master have washed your feet. This is John 13. You ought to wash one another's feet. We think that practicing that, we along with the Baptism and number of other churches practice what they call foot washing where we-- It's a tender experience to someone or they call it the ordinance of humility. Hey, thank you, Lisa. I hope that helps a little bit. So many churches practice the method, has practiced Communion quarterly and that be fine daily. The Church of Christ I used to visit and preach. Church of Christ in Texas they would do it every week. I thought it's too common.

Jean: Thank you for your call, Lisa. Next caller that we have is Dale listening in Arkansas. Dale, welcome to program.

Dale: Good evening, Doug and Jean. My question is an easy one but if you don’t mind I'd like to give a share for Jacob. The young man had the smoking problem. I was a four pack of day smoker and one day I rolled down the window and I was done. God said this is the giant you're tackling today and I never desired one after that and I was four pack a day.

Jean: That’s incredible. I've never known anybody to smoke four packs a day.

Dale: Sometimes I had two lit at once, June. Yes, I was bad. I couldn’t walk 15 feet without wheezing and I was only 45 years old.

Jean: Wow. How long ago was that that you quit?

Dale: January the 19th, 2012.

Jean: Praise God. What's your question before we're running out of time?

Dale: I'm sorry.

Jean: That’s okay.

Dale: My question is on the rapture. There's so many different questions on when it occurs, if it even occurs and a lot of people tap-dance around this and, Doug, you're one the big ones that I like to listen to because you really do this unbiased. If you don’t mind I'll hang up. That way I could put on my headphones to really listen and use my Bible if you sate any scripture.

Doug: All right. Hey, we appreciate that and praise the Lord for your victory with smoking, Dale. On the rapture, yes, the idea rapture means to be carried away with power, to the caught up. The bible does teach in 1 Thessalonians 4 that when the Lord descends from heaven, we will be caught up to meet Him in the air. We'll be transformed. The dead are resurrected. They're caught up. That is true.

The idea that the rapture is a secret is not correct. Bible tells us the Lord is going to come with a shout, the voice of the Archangel, the trump of God. Some people have read the parable where Jesus said His coming will be like two women in the field, one is taken, one is left. Two men in the bed, one taken, one left. Two men in a field, one taken, one left.

The disciple said, "Where are they taken, Lord?" He said, "Where the eagles are, the vultures are, that's where the body is or where the body is, that's where the eagles are." The one is taken, talking about they're being taken away in judgment like when it says the wicked during the time of the flood, the flood came and took them away. People have misunderstood that parable. Jesus is simply saying there's two kinds of churches when the Lord comes. Two women, they're grinding the mill. There's two kinds of people sleeping when Jesus comes. you got the saved and lost, dead in Christ rise.

You got two kinds of people working in the field. They're doing the master's work. Some true, some false. They've misunderstood that I think, but, yes, the Lord is coming. It says like a thief and that means it's a surprise. No man knows the day or the hour. He even told Apostles in such an hour, "You think not. The son of man is coming." When He does come, let's read 2 Peter 3, it tells us the day of the Lord-- You can start at verse 10. The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens pass away with a great noise. Then that's not a secret. The elements melt with fervent heat. The earth and the works that are in it are burned up.

Jean: It's a scene all these things will be dissolved. What kind of people ought we be? When the Lord comes like a thief, everyone is going to know it and the world is on fire. We have a book that deals with this very subject. It's one of my favorites. It's called Anything But Secret. Talking about the second coming of Christ. We'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks.

For those of you who might be wondering about the second coming of Christ, the rapture, how does this take place, what are the bible signs that we have? We'll be happy to send it to you. Again, the book is called Anything But Secret and the number to call is (800) 835-6747. (800) 835-6747. Ask for the book, Anything But Secret. We have Renee listening in Georgia. Renee, welcome to the program.

Renee: Hello. How are you doing?

Jean: Great. Thanks for calling.

Renee: Thank you. My question is about talking in tongues. I understand that in Acts when they talked in tongues, it was to talk to the different people that was there because to get the word out to the people. I'm confused on being filled with the Spirit and talking in tongues.

Doug: Yes. That’s a good question. When it talks in Acts chapter 2 about speaking in tongues, it says that God supernaturally gave the Apostles the ability to speak in the languages of this visit in Jews during the Feast of Pentecost. They were coming from all over the Roman Empire. They spoke many languages. My mother was Jewish but she didn’t speak Hebrew. She spoke New York. You got Jews that were in Italy, they spoke Italian. Jewish that were in Egypt, they spoke Egyptian.

All these Jewish from around the world came to Jerusalem at Pentecost. The Lord poured out the Holy Spirit on the apostles. They then preached the gospel in the languages of the listening multitudes and then they, in turn, took it back to their countries. It was a brilliant move. Jesus said in Mark 16, you will speak with other tongues but this idea of a prayer language that you pray in a language you don't understand, you don't really find Jesus, the apostles doing that.

Prayer is the intelligent communication of your heart and mind with the mind of God and for you to just be babbling words and saying, I'm praying in this special language and that's praying in the spirit, that's nowhere defined in the Bible as prayer. There are three examples of speaking in tongues in the Bible. Acts chapter two, Acts, chapter 10, Acts chapter 19. In all three examples, there are multiple languages present and God gives someone the ability to speak in other languages in that assembly. They know what they're saying. It says they spoke the wonderful works of God where they spoke with tongues and they prophesied. That means they preached.

It's relatively new in the last hundred years, this idea that the gift of tongues is an unintelligible language that nobody understands. You don't find that in the Bible. I have a free gift on that. I'll send you if you simply call for it. Who is our caller that asked about that? Renee.

Jean: The number to call for that is-- well, first of all, the book is called Understanding Tongues and it deals with your very question, Renee. Again, this is for anyone who wants to learn more about it. The number to call for the book is (800) 835-6747 and again, you can ask for the book called Again, one more time, (800) 835-6747, ask for the book called Understanding Tongues. We've got Mark listening from Michigan. Mark, welcome to the program.

Mark: Hi, good evening.

Doug: Evening, Mark.

Mark: My question is about Revelation six, the four horsemen, all the horseman in Revelation six and I've heard several takes on that but I see a lot of parallels between Deuteronomy 32 and Jeremiah and Matthew 24. I keep seeing sword, famine, pestilence or death are used by God against the people of Israel because they didn't follow His rules and worshipped idols. Could it be that the horseman in Revelation six is God taking vengeance on those that did not follow His word and worship Him?

Doug: Well, you're correct that in the seals that you read about, there is some judgment that is coming on different times of history in the world. Now, keep in mind when you read the four horsemen of the apocalypse, the four horsemen are the first four of seven seals that are being opened. Says the Lamb open one seal said, come and see and then you see the first horse, then the second horse, third horse or fourth horse but then he opens fifth seal, sixth seal, seventh seal.

The four horsemen are the first four of seven seals. To understand the four horsemen, you also need to read in Zachariah 1:8 and it talks about these horses, four horses that stand among the myrtle trees that are going forth to all the Kings of the earth and it sounds like their judgments. Horses often represented war. Now, I ought to let pastor Ross answer this because he's written a whole study series on Revelation. They're really phases in history. You want to talk.

Jean: Yes. You got the seven churches, you got the seven seals. You've got the seven trumpets and they basically cover the Christian era. A number of scholars are seen in the first seal. He opens it up and there is a white horse and people seeing that representing the power of the gospel going forth in the first century. The church was pure symbolized by the color white. It was victorious speaking about the spread of Christianity.

Then the next horse is a red horse and many have associated the color red with blood or persecution. That represents a time period of severe persecution that came upon the Christian Church right up till 313 with the legalization of Christianity. That second one represents this terrible time of prosecution, especially 10 years of severe persecution.

Then the next horse is a black horse and that represents the dark ages where there was a compromising of truth. A number of pagan ideas found its way into the Christian Church and then it leads into the fourth horse which again is during the time of the dark ages, nearing the end of it. It talks about a pale horse symbolizing death where really there was in the established formal church, there was a death to true biblical Christianity and that's what that's referring to there.

Doug: Also, there is bionic plague came during that time. One of the greatest-- one-third of Europe, I think. died during that time. Friends, it's probably not fair. I see a few people were standing by. We did not get to you and hope you give us another chance next week. First, we thought we had no calls and then folks lined up and we appreciate your calling.

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