Discouraging Words

Discouraging Words

Date: 09/02/2007 
The Battle of Stalingrad during World War II was arguably the bloodiest battle in human history, with combined casualties estimated above 1.5 million. In 1942 the German army, with the Axis forces, had nearly captured the sprawling Russian City.

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Hello Friends, this is Doug Batchelor, how about an Amazing Fact? The Battle of Stalingrad during World War II was arguably the bloodiest battle in human history, with combined casualties estimated above 1.5 million. In 1942 the German army, with the Axis forces, had nearly captured the sprawling Russian City. But by 1943, after months of brutal house-to-house fighting, the Russian Military defending Stalingrad managed to turn the tables and surround Hitler’s Sixth Army. The besiegers became the besieged.

In addition to a heavy bombing campaign, the Russians placed powerful loudspeakers within the listening range of the German soldiers. A series of sound tactics were used to discourage the German troops. For example, they played the loud, monotonous ticking of a clock followed by a voice saying, “A German dies every seven seconds on the Eastern Front.” The propaganda voice then would intone, “Stalingrad, mass grave of Hitler’s army!” then creepy tango music would start blaring across the empty frozen wasteland. Eventually, demoralized and starved, 91,000 German soldiers surrendered.

The Bible teaches that discouraging words can still cause mass surrender. Stay with us friends, we’re going to learn more as Amazing Facts brings you this edition of Bible Answers Live.

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Pastor Jëan Ross: Welcome to Bible Answers Live brought to you by Amazing Facts Ministries. Are you looking for a clear, concise answer to your most challenging Bible questions? Maybe you’re struggling to understand difficult passages or scripture. If so, you’ve come to the right place. Join us now as we open God’s word to discover His will and find honest, practical answers to your Bible related questions. This broadcast is pre-recorded. If you have a Bible question call us Sundays from 7-8pm Pacific Standard Time at 800-GOD-SAYS, that’s 800-463-7297. Now, let’s join our Host, Author, Speaker and Evangelist, Pastor Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Doug: If you have thought before about a Bible question and you are wondering how you might find the answer, we’d love to help. Lines are open, now would be a good time to pick up your phone and give us a call. We’d love to have you be part of tonight’s program. Once again that number is 800-GOD-SAYS, 800-463-7297. This is Bible Answers Live it’s a Live, International, Interactive Bible Study. And my name is Pastor Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Jëan Ross: My name is Jëan Ross. Pastor Doug, before we open the phone lines and start talking about the Bible, let’s with a prayer Dear Father, once more as we open the Bible we ask for your Holy Spirit’s guidance. Be with those who are listening, those who call in and Father give us wisdom as we answer these questions according to your word. For this we ask in Jesus’ name. Amen.

Pastor Doug: Amen.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Pastor Doug that was a fascinating fact concerning “The Power of Words” in even turning a whole army to defeat and just surrender.

Pastor Doug: Yup, it is amazing. And of course there’s a lot of statements in the Bible and James chapter 2 talks about “The Power of the Tongue” and I especially when I read about the story about The Battle of Stalingrad. How through the repetition of discouraging words, the army finally gave up.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm.

Pastor Doug: And it reminds me of when the Lord allowed 12 spies to go from the wilderness into the promise land. And they were supposed to bring back words of encouragement. But instead, 10 of the spies gave a discouraging report you can read about this in Number 13:27. They came back from spying the land for 40 days and they said, “We went to the land where you sent us and it does flow with milk and honey and here’s the fruit. Never the less the people who dwell there are strong, and the cities are fortified and very large moreover, we saw the Descendants of Anak there. The Amalekites dwell in the land of the South the Hittites, the Jebusites, and the Amorites dwell in the mountains and the Canaanites dwell by the sea and along the banks of the Jordan. Then Caleb quieted the people before Moses, and said, “Let us go up at once and take possession, for we are well able to overcome it.” But the men who had gone up with him (the other 10 spies) they said, “We are not able to go against the people, for they’re stronger than we are.”” and they gave the children of Israel a bad report. And because the people heard this bad report, they got discouraged, they chose to believe the bad news, they did not cross over when they were supposed to, and they wandered for 40 years because of those discouraging words.

Now even within the church today, you’re gonna find people who say, “We are able to be victorious, to live Christian lives” and there’ll be those, even within the church will say, “Oh we can’t really live that, we’re better off just hanging out here in the wilderness.” And it’s very important that we listen to the encouraging words and that we’re a source of that, that we don’t give up and that we press forward. Some people have begun the Christian walk and then they get discouraged along the way. And you know one of the things a Bible has is a number of exceeding great and precious promises to encourage our faith that we can make it. We should not give up, we should not turn back. And perhaps friend you’ve been discouraged, maybe by just circumstances or something someone has said. And you would like a little boost of encouragement that you can make it to the Promise Land. We’ve got a special offer for you.

Pastor Jëan Ross: The offer tonight is entitled, “No Turning Back”. It’s an Amazing Fact Study Guide and to receive that, call the resource number 1800-835-6747, 1800-835-6747. Ask for the Study Guide “No Turning Back”. You know Pastor Doug words not only have an effect on others, but discouraging words in particular have an effect upon ourselves.

Pastor Doug: The speaker can be discouraged by his own discouraging words.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm. And so if we’re dwelling upon the negative, on how difficult it might be, the crosses perhaps that we need to bear in the Christian Life. We’re gonna become discouraged, but if you speak of Jesus, you’ll be encouraged.

Pastor Doug: That’s right. The converse is true, that by choosing to speak words of encouragement and enthusiasm,

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: we can be actually lifted up by our own words.

Pastor Jëan Ross: That’s correct. We’ll we do have some internet questions that’s come in and friends if you would like to send us a question via the internet, via email, all you’ll need to do is go to the Amazing Facts Website. And there is a link that says, “Contact Us” click on that and you can type in your Bible question. Pastor Doug the first question this evening: “Is it bad to be proud of something you have accomplished is this the kind of pride that Paul always was speaking against?”

Pastor Doug: Well, you know, someone said one time, “You’re never more like the devil than when you’re proud.” And a lot of it has to do with the different definitions, if it’s someone says, “I was very proud of my son or my daughter, that they stood for the right.” Well, there’s a sense of satisfaction and approval, approbation that a parent might feel. I’m sure the Lord feels that for His children, like when He said to the devil, “Have you considered my servant Job?”

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: Was God proud of Job? Or was He just saying you know, “I’m rejoicing that he is successful.” So, some of it depends on what a person means or what they read into that words. If we are successful in some endeavor that we have worked hard for, there’s nothing wrong with that sense of satisfaction in a job well done. If we begin to think we’re better than, that kind of pride. The kind of pride the devil had is he wanted to be God, he wanted God’s place. So the pride of putting someone else down or to be better or that selfish and more conceited, more exalted, that is very displeasing to the Lord. So of course it depends on the person’s modus and how they’re defining that term.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Ok. The second question, “Is the Antichrist a person, or is it just a movement?”

Pastor Doug: Well, that can be kind of a trick question. Because, all of the great leaders of history usually have some movement connected with what they’re doing. And the Antichrist is a movement that of course will have a leader at the head that he is mobilizing. I mean, it tells us in the last days that this Beast Tower is mobilizing the whole world to worship the way he says. And obviously there is a person there that is at the head of that. And oh you know, there’s so much I’d like to say on this, probably the best thing Pastor Ross is to offer to people our Study Guide on the Antichrist. We have a Study Guide simply says, “Who is the Antichrist?”

Pastor Jëan Ross: And to receive that all you’ll need to do is call the resource number 1800-835-6747 ask for the Study Guide, “Who is the Antichrist?” and it deals with this very important topic found in Revelation. We’d be happy to send that out to you. Our first caller this evening is Max and he’s calling from Brooklyn, New York. Max, welcome to the program.

Pastor Doug: Max are you there? Hi.

Max: Hi Pastor Doug. Hi Pastor Jëan.

Pastor Doug: How are you doing? Your question?

Max: Yes, Hi. My question comes from 1 Corinthians 14:2

Pastor Doug: Ok.

Max: I was just wondering what did Paul mean exactly by, “he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God”

Pastor Doug: Alright, well first of all the word tongue whenever you see it here, when it says “Unknown Tongue” if you have regular King James Bible, you’ll notice the word “Unknown” is in Italics that means that word is not even in the Greek, it’s just a supplied word. And it’s simply saying if someone is speaking in a language that is unknown to those present, that…

Max: Right, I

Pastor Doug: no one understands them but God. This chapter has confused many people. So, if you back up let me give the context of what Paul is talking about. ‘Cause sometimes if you just pull out a verse of the context of what’s happening in the background, it can confuse people. The Corinthian Church, Corinth was a city on the sea. It was largely populated by some of the people who had been concurred by Rome and their slaves, they represented many different countries. The Corinthian Church was a “Melting Pot” of many nations. And the services, the Christian Services in those churches often became confusing because there is so many different languages being spoken. Someone might, you know, stand up and begin to speak in a one language that the other people present did not understand. And Paul is trying to emphasize through this whole chapter, when you have your services, when you come together, if people present don’t know what you’re saying, keep silent. And then he says in verse 9, “Except you utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how will it be known what is spoken? You’re speaking into the air.” So, when you speak a tongue that’s “unknown” to those present, God knows what you’re saying, you’re just speaking to God, but the people present need to hear otherwise keep silent.

Max: Ok.

Pastor Doug: And so once a person gets the background of that, the whole chapter makes sense. Some people have sort of recreated this chapter. That means something it doesn’t mean.

Max: Right.

Pastor Jëan Ross: You know Pastor Doug you’ve got a book entitled, “Captured by Tongues” that deals with this whole subject of what is the gift of tongues, how is it to be used in the church. And we’d like to make that available to anyone who’s listening,

Pastor Doug: Yeah.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Max you might want to call the resource number and get that.

Max: Yeah I have that one.

Pastor Jëan Ross: You have that Book? Ok.

Max: I was doing a research on it.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Alright, let me give the number for anyone else who’s listening, 1800-835-6747 ask for the book by Pastor Doug on “Captured by Tongues”.

Pastor Doug: Now, Max did we cover what you were really fishing for?

Max: Well, a friend of mine ask me, ‘cause I was trying to explain that you know, when you say tongues it just represents some languages…

Pastor Doug: Yeah, you know, if you look, if you wanna cross-reference, if you go to Mark chapter 16, one of the last things Jesus said when He commissioned the disciples, He said “You will speak with other tongues” what does that mean? You go to Acts chapter 2, when the Holy Spirit was poured out, the apostles were given the super natural ability to speak languages they had not formally known or studied and they were speaking to the Jews that were present from other parts of the Roman Empire, that didn’t understand the native language.

Max: Ok.

Pastor Doug: My mother was Jewish but she didn’t speak Hebrew, she spoke American. And so, yeah you know, just because they were Jewish didn’t mean they spoke Jewish they’re from all over the Roman Empire and they had come to Jerusalem from every nation to worship. And so, anyway the Gift of Tongues was given for preaching the Gospel that is the primary purpose for the Gift of Tongues.

Max: Ok now, where it says, For he that speaketh,speaks the mysteryhowbeit in the spirit he speaks the mysteries” that also applies right?

Pastor Doug: Yeah. It’s just saying that he is speaking things, the Holy Spirit knows what he’s saying and in he’s heart he knows what he’s saying, but the people don’t know what he’s saying. It’s a mystery to them.

Max: Ok. Ok. I understand.

Pastor Doug: So, Ok. I hope that helps a little.

Max: Thank you, Thank you very much.

Pastor Doug: Thank You.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Alright we’ll go to our next caller. Joseph is listening in W.M.C.A. from New York, New York. Joseph, welcome to the program.

Joseph: Hello Pastors.

Pastor Doug: Welcome Joseph.

Joseph: I hope you can help me, there’s’ something that I find very puzzling. I’m sure you can supply the answer. When Mary was over shadowed with the Holy Spirit, is that the Holy Spirit of the Trinity that we’re talking about? What Spirit is that?

Pastor Doug: Well, I would think so, I think that it’s a when its talking about the Holy Ghost would come over her that she conceived of the Holy Spirit. And that word there probably I’d look that word up in the Original Greek. I haven’t done that but I’m assuming that, that word is just talking about you know, the Holy Spirit will come upon you. And instead of this child being conceived by the regular, natural methods,

Joseph: Right, right. I got that.

Pastor Doug: It will be supernaturally conceived.

Joseph: Oh so,

Pastor Jëan Ross: You know in New King James, I’m just looking this up Joseph. It’s says specifically in verse 34 of Luke 1.

Joseph: Yup.

Pastor Jëan Ross: The angels says, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you,

Joseph: Yes.

Pastor Jëan Ross: and the Power of the Highest will over shadow you

Joseph: Mm-Hmm

Pastor Jëan Ross: therefore also the Holy One, who is born of you, will be called the Son of God.” So it makes it fairly clear that it’s the Holy Spirit that’s over shadowing our…

Joseph: Ok. I got that. I got that. Now, while Jesus was being conceived within Mary, would the Spirit of Jesus be within her?

Pastor Doug: With the Holy Spirit, there’s not really a big difference between the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus. Because, Jesus said, “When I ascend to Heaven, I will send a comforter and I will be with you.” So physically Christ is gone but the presence of the Spirit is a mirror, the same way Jesus said, “If you’ve seen me, you’ve the Father.” The Holy Spirit is a mirror of God, God the Son and the Spirit and the Father.

Joseph: I know about “Omnipresence”. Now, just to follow this up, when Jesus was being conceived was He still in Heaven at the same time?

Pastor Doug: No, I think that once, you know it’s sort of a mystery for us. But at the moment that, that life began within Mary, I think that Christ humbled himself and became a human.

Joseph: Ok. Now,

Pastor Doug: And I don’t think that He was there in her womb, conscious of what was going on around Him.

Joseph: No. Now, once He was on earth, then He wasn’t in Heaven? Correct? Do I have that right?

Pastor Doug: That’s true.

Joseph: So, He wasn’t on Heaven all the time He was on earth and He didn’t return until The Ascended?

Pastor Doug: That’s right. That you know, Jesus, He knows all things but God the Son sacrificed this dimension of His omnipresence to be a man.

Joseph: Ok. Because that what confused me, the omnipresence. And I thought you know, in that case you could be both places. But that wasn’t the case…

Pastor Doug: No, that’s why Christ said, “It’s expedient for you that I go away, and I will send the Spirit.” Because He is saying, “I can only be with you,” you know, “one at a time but through the Spirit, I can be with everyone on the planet.”

Joseph: Right. And you’ve cleared that out, very nice. And Pastor, without aggressing and all, I heard you say when I turned the radio on then I lost it. About the 90,000 soldiers that converted or…

Pastor Doug: Well they surrendered in Stalingrad, Yes.

Joseph: Was that as a result of one person saying something? I just…

Pastor Doug: No, the Russian Army were playing through loud speaker’s to the German Army a bunch of discouraging propaganda and,

Joseph: Oh I got it.

Pastor Doug: That’s what brought it about.

Joseph: Ok. I do wanna Thank You both. God Bless you both.

Pastor Doug: Alright, God Bless you Joseph. Thanks.

Joseph: Thank You.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Our next caller is Cecilia, listening on the internet, calling from Toronto, Canada. Cecilia, welcome to the program. Cecilia, are you there?

Cecilia: Hello, Hi Pastor Doug, Good Evening. How are you today?

Pastor Doug: Evening. How are you and your question?

Cecilia: Ok. I have a question regarding marriage. One of my friend, she got married to her mom’s first cousin.

Pastor Doug: Yes.

Cecilia: And they’ve been married, like since, I believe 9 years.

Pastor Doug: Uh-huh.

Cecilia: And she often call me and she cries right, ‘cause she said that people teases her that they’re committing an adultery…

Pastor Doug: Or incest you mean. It’s not adultery, if you marry too close to the family they usually call it incest, but it’s not adultery.

Cecilia: So, ‘cause she said I’m so confused. I don’t know what to do.

Pastor Doug: Well now, it’s not necessarily wrong or a sin to marry someone that may have some blood relation. It varies, in North America it varies from State to State. If you go overseas it’s not uncommon for people to marry first cousins.

Cecilia: Alright.

Pastor Doug: It’s more common in other countries. Yeah, there’s no Bible Mandate, I don’t think that say’s that. Because, Abraham married his half-sister,

Cecilia: Yeah.

Pastor Doug: Isaac married his first cousin Jacob married his first cousin, so,

Cecilia: Yeah.

Pastor Doug: You know the danger of marrying too close to the family tree, is that you end up with more possibility for genetic weakness in the offspring. But there’s no sin in it, there’s no moral problem with that.

Cecilia: So, even though mom’s first cousin, that’s ok right? For them?

Pastor Doug: Yeah. If it’s the mother’s first cousin then it becomes pretty far removed from the child.

Cecilia: ‘Cause they said that she got married to her maternal uncle. Is that…

Pastor Doug: Well, you know what if the state, states usually have laws on the books about these issues and if the state has no law forbidding it, then Bible certainly does not. It’s like I said, it’s a medical thing just to prevent genetic defects in the children. If you marry too close in the family, it’s just a proven fact there’s a lot more probability. You ever heard the expression before Cecilia of the “Blue Bloods of Europe”?

Cecilia: No.

Pastor Doug: Well, the Blue Bloods they call them the “Blue Bloods” and that was the Royalty of Europe. You heard that Pastor Ross is that right?

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-hmm.

Pastor Doug: The Blue Bloods, they often had Hemophilia because so many of the Monarchs in Europe Intermarried, that they had this very common genetic problem. Matter of fact, Tsar Alexander one of his sons where Hemophiliac it became very common.

Cecilia: Ow.

Pastor Doug: So, it’s a medical issue, it’s not a moral issue. And hopefully you can pass that on to your friend.

Cecilia: Yeah Sure. ‘Cause she said that, every time like, whenever like (inaudible 20:02) if anybody comes and

Pastor Doug: They tease her about that. Huh?

Cecilia: And show that (inaudible 20:07) and that or….

Pastor Doug: Well, she needs to get a print-out on what the laws of the state are. I expect that the laws of her state do not prevent it, and the law of God does not prevent it. She needs to tell them to just to leave her alone. So,

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: (Laughing)

Pastor Jëan Ross: You can run into all kinds of situations I’m sure, in that type of thing.

Pastor Doug: Yeah. Family would (inaudible 20:28) a lot.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Our next caller is Pam. Listening on K.A.R.M. from California. Pam, welcome to the program.

Pam: Good Evening Gentlemen. I have a question on creation. In the beginning God created the Heaven’s and the Earth. Now does this mean that He created the solar systems, universe and galaxies at the same time? Or did they pre-exist before the creation of the earth?

Pastor Doug: Well, I believe some of it pre-existed but it does say on the 4th day, He made the sun, moon and stars. Now, there are stars within just our galaxy, the Milky Way Galaxy. Now that we have this telescopes that gives us a little better picture of how the cosmos is formed. We realize a lot of things we look at, at night that we think our stars are not even stars they’re clusters of billions of stars called galaxies. And the opening verse of the Bible, “In the beginning, God made the Heaven and the Earth” is not saying that 6,000 years ago God made everything that was made. Because it tells us that when God created the world the Son’s of God shouted for joy. And that tells us, there’s other intelligent beings that were rejoicing when God made the world. So, and that’s in the Book of Job I believe…

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: So, it’s my belief that God, you know, it’s a sweeping statement there in Genesis 1, “In the beginning God made everything that was made.” Cause it already tells you that when he came to this planet it was here, but it was void and without form. Probably looks something like our moon which is sort of void, without, it’s formless it doesn’t have any organization or symmetry to it. And I believe that you know, our planet and our galaxy what we call “The Milky Way Galaxy”, that He made that 6,000 years ago and the stars that we see in our galaxy that we call the Milky Way. But I believe that there are virtually infinite number of other galaxies of stars and life out there that God has made. God didn’t just start creating 6,000 years ago.

Pam: So then when He created the night and the day, or made light and darkness the difference, and then on the 4th day He created the sun and the moon…

Pastor Doug: So where did the light come from?

Pam: Right.

Pastor Doug: Yeah. I’ll tell you how I answer that, it’s something that satisfies me, the Bible says, “God is light and in Him is no darkness” and when you get to Revelation it says, “There’s no need of the sun, for the Lord illuminates the city” so God is very very bright. And so when the Lord came to this dark orb, in the cosmos, He gave it a spin and He said, “Let there be light” and His very presence of coming brought light and He separated the day from the night, He gave it a spin, and 24 hours it would rotate once on its axis. So He began to create whatever part of the planet was facing Him, those first six days. I mean that was day and the 4th day He created the sun.

Pam: Ok. Well, thank you very much and you have a blessed evening.

Pastor Doug: Alright, Thank you.

Pam: Good Night.

Pastor Doug: Night.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Our next caller is Ambrose and He’s calling listening on K.T.P.J. from Colorado. Ambrose, welcome to the program.

Ambrose: Yeah. Thank You.

Pastor Doug: Thank You. Get real close to your phone.

Ambrose: Is that good sir?

Pastor Doug: And your question?

Ambrose: Well, my question is, I hear awhile back you said that the prophet was a Holy place and the church was a Holy place. But then, I read here in 2 Corinthians 6:14, “Be not…” well you read it, if you want.

Pastor Doug: “Be not unequally yoked together with unbelievers, for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion has light with darkness?”

Ambrose: And then verse 17.

Pastor Doug: “And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God.

Ambrose: Yeah.

Pastor Doug: Now, what particularly are you wondering though?

Ambrose: What’s your take on this?

Pastor Doug: On this verse?

Ambrose: What thing about these politicians is getting a prophet over on these churches?

Pastor Doug: I still didn’t, I couldn’t make up…

Pastor Jëan Ross: Well, you mean when a politician comes to town and then he’ll preach on the church?

Ambrose: Mm-Hmm

Pastor Doug: Yeah. Well, I think politicians are human’s and of course they’ve got a right to visit a church and to worship. I think that it’s important to keep certain elements of politics out of the church. In other words I don’t believe that the churches should open themselves up and all become pulpits for different Pastor’s political views. Because the worship of God Jesus said, you know, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and render toGodthethings that are God's.” That doesn’t mean that Christians can’t have political views, I just think that it’s healthy if you know, churches don’t get divided on politics. A lot more are already divided on doctrine, Bible doctrine.

Pastor Jëan Ross: (Laughing) Yeah.

Pastor Doug: So, I don’t know if that’s what you’re asking.

Ambrose: Well, we all know politics they just represent.

Pastor Doug: Yeah. Well, every Politian of course has a different view and it would depend on you know, what angle he’s coming from. And you could get those who are very liberal in their views, who would stand up in the church and the next week you could get those who are very conservative in their views and a church could become divided on political issues that really have nothing to do with doctrinal issues and…

Pastor Jëan Ross: I know that Pastors in particular have to be careful, especially around election time. That they make sure that what they are preaching is the word of God and not a political candidates view point on something.

Pastor Doug: I think that’s probably why most towns and counties have a courthouse and a capital and they got churches in their separate buildings. (Laughing)

Pastor Jëan Ross: There’s wisdom to that.

Pastor Doug: Yeah.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Alright, we’re gonna go to our next caller who is Joseph and he is calling from Georgia, Savannah, Georgia. Listening on the internet, Joseph, welcome to the program.

Joseph: Hello Pastors.

Pastor Doug: Hi. How are you doing?

Joseph: I’m doing just fine. Pastor Doug, my mama really loves listening to you, and we think it’s, see we just love listening to you. Telling us about the Lord changed your life and made you the what you are. It’s really made (Inaudible 26:48)

Pastor Doug: Praise the Lord.

Joseph: Well, my question has to deal with the Holy Spirit. If you look in the Old Testament, it doesn’t actually say Holy Spirit for most part. It’s says once the Holy Spirit like a couple of times, but most part it says Spirit of God. And then the New Testament says Spirit of God and Holy Spirit at certain times. Well, my question is it seems like in Genesis it says the Spirit of God (Inaudible 27:15) in the first verse it mentioned God, it says “I’m beginning, God created the heavens and earth” and I think the second verse says, “and the Spirit of God moved up on the face of the waters” So, my question is, is the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit are they the same? The Spirit of God in the Old Testament the title the Spirit of God in the Old Testament…

Pastor Doug: Right.

Joseph: and the Holy Spirit in the New Testament are they the same? And if so, it seems like in The Old Testament, the Spirit of God would do the title for God the Father. So, is Holy Spirit just another title for God the Father? ‘Cause that’s the thing that I wanna mention, that I understand that if I’m correct thinking of years 325, I think…

Pastor Doug: We’re gonna run of time for the break Joseph, can I take a shot real quick at your first question?

Joseph: Absolutely. Yeah.

Pastor Doug: Yeah, we got the music creeping up behind us here. On the Holy Spirit question, keep in mind of course the Old Testament is written in Hebrew, New Testament is written in Greek. It does say Holy Spirit, 3 times in the Old Testament, Psalm 51:11 and it is the same Spirit. Now God says that “He is one, God the Father, Son and Spirit” you’ll find a lot of cross-over and that these three persons, they all share the same love, the same sentiments, same motive, they’re perfectly united, in that sense they are one. And so, it’s not uncommon that you’d see a lot of echoes of God the Father in God the Spirit and that they seem similar. Oh, friends we’re gonna take a break here just a minute. Get your pen and be prepared, we want you to take a look at the Amazing Facts Website – amazingfacts.org. We’ll be right back.

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Welcome back to Bible Answers Live with Pastor Doug Batchelor. This broadcast is pre-recorded, if you have a Bible related question, you can call us from 7 to 8pm Pacific Standard Time on Sundays. And receive clear, honest answers directly from scripture, call 800-GOD-SAYS that’s 800- 463-7297. Now, please join us as we look to God’s word for more Bible Answers Live. With Author and Evangelist, Pastor Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Doug: We’re back Listening Friends and in case some of you have just tuned in, you found your way to Bible Answers Live. And if you have a Bible question, we do still have some lines open. That number is 800-463-7297, my name is Doug Batchelor.

Pastor Jëan Ross: My name is Jëan Ross. Pastor Doug at a little later this week, you and I will be heading out to Michigan. Because coming this coming Friday evening the 7th of September, we’re gonna be beginning the “Here We Stand Series of Sermons” 10 nights. Dealing with some of the most important prophesies and true’s of the Bible.

Pastor Doug: Yes. There’s a special series, we’re going to be up linking. It will be on Radio, via 3abn Radio as well as 3abn’s Television Network. And if you go to the Amazing Facts Website or you can simply go to 07revive.com, 07revive.com and you’ll find information about the program. It’s gonna be a special series of revival meetings and it would be illustrating how a number of Biblical True’s have been somewhat lost by the church and you know, how you we can take a stand once again on some of these foundational true’s that have been abandoned. And we will be up linking from the Convention Center in Lansing, Michigan and we’d love to have you tuned in.

Pastor Jëan Ross: If you’re in the area, come by and join us. We start 7 o’clock Eastern time from the Lansing Convention Center. So, if you’re in the area please come on by. We’re also having a training seminar, a symposium in conjunction with the revival during the day, starting on the 10th.

Pastor Doug: Anyone who’s interested as a Christian worker Pastors, Christian Workers, Bible Workers, Missionaries, would really be inspired by this theological symposium. Do you wanna share anymore about it? Or...

Pastor Jëan Ross: To get more information about that, there’s a lot we can say, but it starts in the mornings and then part of the afternoon, then in the evening we have the revival at the Lansing Center. But to get more information, go to 07revive.org and there is a link right there that says “Symposium”.

Pastor Doug: That’s Right.

Pastor Jëan Ross: You can click on that and it’s not too late to register. So, if that’s something you’d like to do, be sure to go take a look at it. We’re gotta go to the phone lines, our next caller is Gavin. He’s calling from Syracuse, New York. Gavin, welcome to the program.

Gavin: Hi Pastor Doug and Jëan, how are you doing?

Pastor Doug: Hi, Thanks for your patience.

Gavin: Yes. It’s kind of a follow question that I had from before. And I just want to, it’s about Lucifer in Isaiah 14. But just before I’d say that, I know I have about 3 minutes. So I just want to mention, in the Old Testament, devil and demon is never mentioned. Demon’s is mentioned twice, and in both cases talk about I think sacrificing to Demon’s. And as far as Satan, Satan is only mentioned many times in Job but that’s the only instance. And then the other one is Zechariah 3:2, so only twice. And when I called in before, just months ago, you were away Pastor Doug but one of the commentators agreed with me that in Genesis there is no mention of Satan. And I know there is references in Revelation where you can refer back to it. But in Genesis particularly, it’s talking about a serpent which God created cunning, right? And not said to be Satan. My specific question then is, Isaiah 14 mentions the name Lucifer which most Christianity believe is Satan. How come in Isaiah 14:16, it says that, that same Lucifer is the King of Babylon and is also said to be a man. And the language used where he says, in verse 13, “I will ascend into Heaven, I will exalt my throne” those phrases are used to support the existence of what happened with Satan. But in reality, I just want your answer, is that not directly talking about the King of Babylon?

Pastor Doug: There’s a principle, well I’m gonna give you an answer, and I’ll have to answer you as Jesus often did. I’ll answer you with a question. Maybe I’ll be kinder than that.

Gavin: I love that. No, I love a question.

Pastor Doug: There’s another example in the Bible where Nathan the Prophet comes to King David, and Nathan’s wondering if he should build a temple, and David is wondering if he should build a temple. And Nathan the Prophet says, “Your son that shall come after you, he will build me a house that will last forever.” Well, King Solomon the son of David did build a house, but it didn’t last forever. The real son of David who built a house that is lasting forever is Christ. He said, “Destroy this temple made with hands, three days I’ll make one without hands.” So, my question is, was it talking about King Solomon or was it talking about Christ, who is real Son of David? My point is that when you’re studying Bible Prophesy, many of this prophesies have a dual application. And so, there’s no question that the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 and the King of Babylon in Isaiah 14, there were prophesies against them. Matter of fact you heard the prophecy before, where it said, “A virgin will conceive and bear a son.” And virtually every Christian commentator says, well that’s talking about Mary, this virgin that bore a Son, and I agree. But when the prophecy is first given to King Ahaz, I think it is it’s talking about a battle with the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Now looking, since Jesus came and He was born of a virgin, we can see that this had a secondary fulfillment it was talking about the son of God. So many of these prophesies have the historical, and then they have the spiritual, and there is a very clear spiritual analogy in Isaiah 14 talking about the rebellion of Lucifer. And so I’m not trying to discount…

Gavin: Yeah.

Pastor Doug: that there is some historical fulfillment.

Gavin: Can I just answer that question?

Pastor Doug: Yeah.

Gavin: Ok. Just what…

Pastor Doug: You just can’t take it long as me.

Gavin: I’ll have to do it real quickly.

Pastor Doug: (Laughing)

Gavin: With regards to Ezekiel then. Ok, I would agree, we can read, because of our principle, we can try to assume dual things on many things if we want to. But in Ezekiel, it definitely says that people that argue in 28 verse 13, “Thou has been an Eden, the garden of God” right? And right away because then there’s’ also language, “Thou art the anointed cherub” they’re saying, “Oh this is the Lucifer that fell and he was in the Garden and then he tempted Eve. But when you jump to Ezekiel chapter 31, when it talks about Pharaoh the King of Egypt, it also compares him to be a Cedar in Lebanon verse 3 and verse 8 these Cedar’s are in the Garden of God and verse 9 it says, Trees of Eden.

Pastor Doug: Yeah many of the nations were compared to trees. You know what I’m really curious about Gavin?

Gavin: Ok.

Pastor Doug: What is, pardon me for wording this, but what is your problem with this? I mean are you saying there’s no devil?

Gavin: Yeah. I really believe. ‘Cause I believe what Paul preached, I mean I wanna believe instead of trying to refer all these instances in the Old Testament to support a devil. I’d rather believe what Paul said that “Every single desire of our heart which leads us to temptation and doing things against God’s will, comes from our heart. And that’s why Adam made his choice from his heart.

Pastor Doug: Well now, you’re using just the Old Testament references, what about all the New Testament references to the devil?

Gavin: Well we gotta remember, you know devil is a false accuser and Satan is adversary right? So, when you take those words figuratively as they are, instead of as titles which many people want to do, when you use those words that’s why Peter was referred to a devil. And…

Pastor Doug: Well the devil was speaking through Peter at that time, just like the devil have you read the book of Job? Where Satan, it say’s Satan, went to Job and then it tells that the Devil basically spoke through Job’s wife and said “Curse God and die” it was the very words that the Devil said to God, Job’s wife says. So we know who inspired her.

Gavin: That’s a good point Pastor Doug, but at the same time you can look at Jesus’ temptation and say, “Was He speaking to a literal devil tempting Him?” or “Was He struggling with temptation within His heart?” which we all do, and if we all admit…

Pastor Doug: Well if we own the record it says that,

Gavin: Yeah.

Pastor Doug: He’s told the Devil, “Get thee behind me, Satan” was he talking to Himself?

Gavin: Yeah. When someone says you’re…

Pastor Doug: (Laughing)

Gavin: When you’re tempted you can say, “Get these thoughts out of my mind”

Pastor Doug: Well you know what,

Gavin: Isn’t that what we look at it?

Pastor Doug: You know what, you’ve got a good spirit Gavin, you’re very kind.

Gavin: Ok.

Pastor Doug: But I need to respectfully disagree with your conclusion. There’s so much in the Bible, New and Old Testament that tells us that there are forces of good and evil, and there is this Prince of Evil, called Satan. He’s very real.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Matter of fact we have a study guide Pastor Doug, dealing with this “Did God Create the Devil?”

Pastor Doug: Yeah. That’s ideal and I don’t know if Gavin has ordered that, but I really hope that you will.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: And take a look at the resource there. Who’s next Pastor Ross?

Pastor Jëan Ross: Our next caller is David, and he’s calling from Birmingham, Alabama. Listening on the internet, David, welcome to the program.

David: Hey, Guys! How’s it going?

Pastor Doug: Real good!

David: My question is about the promises of God and how we can take them as Christians living today even if they’re as far back as from the Old Testament. The promises that I’m reading from today are from Ezekiel 36:25 through 27, and I’m just wondering if we can apply these promises to us today.

Pastor Doug: Yeah, this is the one where He says, “I’ll cleanse you from your filthiness, I’ll give you a new heart, I’ll take your heart of stone, I’ll give you a heart of flesh.” Well, this is the new covenant, this particular promise is very much like Jeremiah 31:31 that says, “A new covenant I’ll make, I’ll write my law in their heart.”

David: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: And you know, the old law was written on stone. The same law now is written on the fleshly tablets of our heart. And so,

David: Ok. So we can’t take these promises?

Pastor Doug: Oh yeah, the only thing, here’s a little key that I hope will help when it comes to interpreting these. The only issues in the Old Testament that we are to recognize, to have been nailed to the cross, are the ceremonial laws and holidays that were part of the sacrificial system in the temple. All the other promises and prophesies in the Bible, New and Old Testament, are for us. Matter of fact, everything you read in the New Testament about believing the Promises of Scripture, they didn’t even have the New Testament, when they were writing that they were all talking about the Old Testament. So, when Jesus ex-taunted the scriptures, well all He had was the Old Testament. So, sure, you can claim all these promises.

David: Ok. Well, thanks a lot guys, I appreciate you answering my question.

Pastor Doug: Alright, appreciate it.

Pastor Jëan Ross: You know, in particular, that promise of God creating a new heart is one the most precious promises that we can claim.

Pastor Doug: Oh, Absolutely.

Pastor Jëan Ross: It’s repeated of course in the Book of Hebrews, speaking of the New Covenant that God makes. Our next caller is Betsy, and she’s calling from New York, New York, listening on W.M.C.A., Betsy welcome to the program.

Betsy: Thank You. Hello Pastors how are you?

Pastor Doug: Good. And let me ask you a question Betsy, are you listening on the radio?

Betsy: We are now.

Pastor Doug: Ok Good. I was gonna say, some of our friends in New York said they weren’t picking up our broadcast, so I’m glad you’re hearing us, ok.

Betsy: Well, we weren’t before, but it is now. So, thank you.

Pastor Doug: Alright. Well, Praise the Lord.

Betsy: Yes. I just wanted to thank you really quick Pastor Doug, for your humility, and your kindness to your callers. My question is you have been stating about the 666 the Mark of the Beast. And that a lot people believe that it’s a literal mark or a tattoo. And you’ve been sharing throughout the Bible, how it’s a form of thinking. And my question becomes then, how is it that people are supposed to buy and sell, if it’s not something literal or physical that is on your body? How will people know how to buy or sell, like how will that process go about?

Pastor Doug: Alright Betsy, I’m glad you asked that question. First let me clarify, while I do not think, that the actual number 666 is going to get tattooed on anybody, on their forehand or the hand. ‘Cause the Bible doesn’t say that, the Bible says “It is a number of a man” it’s a number that helps us identify the Beasts’ power. But there will be a mechanism to control the buying and selling, I believe that firmly. And I’m sure, you can just count on, that these you know, world powers that are gonna conspire to compel worship, they’re going to use modern technology. It may involve some sort of you know, national or international identification card, now with the international commerce money is now going more and more to digital. More people are using plastic money, they’re paying their bills online. And really, every single year, probably every week, we’re moving more towards the casual society. So it makes it easier for governments to control taxes. Because they can monitor all transactions, and also to control buying and selling, so that if you don’t have that kind of card or authorization, you can’t buy or sell. So, I do believe, that the buying and selling is going to be, they’ll be some devices in place to control that, but that’s not the Mark of the Beast. The Mark of the Beast and the Number 666 is really, they’re there to help us identify who is the power that will do this.

Betsy: Ok.

Pastor Doug: It’s a who, not a what?

Betsy: I just wanted to make a really quick comment, concerning the gentleman that was calling before stating that, he believed there was no devil. My husband just wanted me really quick on the air to say that if he reads Ephesians 6 that may help him.

Pastor Doug: Yeah, we don’t wrestle against flesh and blood,

Betsy: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: but against principalities and the devil, absolutely.

Betsy: Can I sneak in one, really quick question that’s been on my mind?

Pastor Doug: Alright let see, I’m curious how quick it is, let me hear.

Betsy: Ok. I just wanted to know, if when God told the woman and the man, you know, “When you’re in labor, your pains will really increase. And man, you have to… because of what you’ve earned, earn your (Inaudible 44:49-50)” Why is it that we are still paying those consequences, even though Jesus died for us?

Pastor Doug: Well there is, you know, there is a promise. Hey, where is that verse that says Pastor Ross, “They’ll be delivered child bearing” you’ll probably need the King James to find that. “If they continue in faith and humility”, there’s a New Testament promise for believers in child birth.

Betsy: Ok.

Pastor Doug: And Pastor Ross is I think he’s trying to find,

Pastor Jëan Ross: I’m trying to pull it up here at the New Testament.

Pastor Doug: “Delivered” and trying to think…

Pastor Doug: Talking about the young women, if they continue in faith in this, they’ll be delivered in it’ll say child birth or child bearing, (Inaudible 45:28) typed in child birth. See now, you asked that quick question, and now I wanna know the answer.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Now we’re gonna find out, we’re intrigued with that.

Betsy: Well, hopefully it will give you time to let me know when you guys are coming to New York, you have so many listeners that would love to have you here and just really go to a seminar.

Pastor Doug: Yeah. I haven’t been there in a little while, I’m sorry. But, any luck yet?

Pastor Jëan Ross: I haven’t. You know Pastor Doug, let me look for that, maybe while you take the next call and we’ll give you the verse. I know the verse you’re thinking of.

Pastor Doug: Alright, if you stay on the air, Betsy. We’ll try and call that one out when we find it.

Betsy: I will listen to you guys. You have great night and thank you so much for taking my call.

Pastor Doug: Alright, Thank You.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Alright, we’re gonna go to our next caller. David is listening on K.S.K.Y. and he is calling from Louisiana. David, welcome to the program.

David: Hello.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Hi David.

Pastor Doug: Hi David, thanks for calling.

David: Hey how you doing Pastor (Inaudible 46:17) I was watching 3abn and I couldn’t catch what Pastors this calling from or what’s talking about. Something about prophets having dreams or so forth and this is how God revealed his message to the prophet. And are there any prophets within this day and time that God uses now?

Pastor Doug: Well, it’s a good question. I do believe that you know, the Bible tells us for instance in the book of Joel, in the last days and that it’s Joel 2:28, “Your old men will dream dreams, and your young men will see visions.”

David: Exactly.

Pastor Doug: And you know, God speaking to His people, through dreams and visions.

David: Right.

Pastor Doug: And you can read in Deuteronomy, “If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams and he gives a sign or wonder” it wasn’t uncommon for prophets all the way back in Moses’ time for God to speak through dreams. Both true and of course there’s false prophets who’d say, “I’ve had a dream.”

David: Exactly.

Pastor Doug: But,

David: But how do you determine whether if it’s from God or from the Devil?

Pastor Doug: You know what, before I forget we will send you a Study Guide that actually has a way to determine true from false prophets. If I’m not mistaken Pastor Ross, in our Study Guide on Prophets it actually has some guidelines on how to tell the difference between the true Prophets and the false Prophets.

Pastor Jëan Ross: That’s correct.

Pastor Doug: And it’s in our lesson called, “Does God Inspire Psychics and Astrologers?” “Does God Inspire (it’s actually) Astrologers and Psychics” and there’s a Biblical criteria for how do you determine the difference between a true and a false prophet David. Would you like a free copy of that?

David: Yes, I would.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Then we’ll give you the resource number, and we’ll send it out free. It’s 1800-835-6747 and just ask for “Does God Inspire Astrologers and Psychics?” and that explains, (Inaudible 48:17) from the Bible. Alright, our next caller then is Jim. And he is calling from Washington, listening on K.2.20.G.X. Jim, welcome to the program.

Jim: Hello there. Thank you for taking my call.

Pastor Doug: Yes Sir.

Jim: My question is in Daniel, 12th chapter the 11 and 12th verse. Now the 11th verse, it’s got 2 of the daily sacrifice taken away in the Abomination of Desolation, those are 2 separate events. Does that cover the whole period of time of Jesus’ generation? You know, at Daniel 4:3, when God was in charged it was generation to generation?

Pastor Doug: Yeah. I’m still not exactly sure what you’re asking. You’re wanting about where it talks about the daily sacrifice in Daniel 12?

Jim: Is taken in the Abomination of Desolation. Then they said that there’ll be 1,290 days, years.

Pastor Doug: Uh-huh

Jim: How do you analyze that?

Pastor Doug: Well, you got 3 time periods there. You’ve got Daniel chapter 12 friends, has got more time periods than any other chapter in the Bible. You’ve got 12 hundred and 60 days, 12 hundred and 90 days, and 13 hundred and 35 days. The difference,

Jim: Yeah. They’re 45 year differences it’s the real sticker but just verse 11, these 2 events, the Daily Sacrifice, and the Abomination of Desolation.

Pastor Doug: Pastor Ross?

Pastor Jëan Ross: Yeah. Talking about that time period in particular, often scholars recognize that as being 12 hundred and 90 years. Which begun in 508 A.D. and went all the way through to 1798 during the time of the church state combination. And those who refuse to acknowledge the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome suffered the persecution.

Jim: Oh, I can’t here find that. (Laughing) I thought it was.

Pastor Doug: We’ve got a lesson on this if you’d like. It’s a pretty deep study and it goes through the kind of the history the church that’s covered. Because these prophesies cover a large period of time.

Jim: Yes. We’re the only 2 men. One on each side of the Old Covenant to the New which is I see is the River.

Pastor Doug: You know, we might have to come out that with a little different interpretation. Tell you what, why don’t you go ahead and let us send you our Study Guide that deals with “The Prophesies of Daniel” and if you call, a matter of fact “The Abomination of Desolation” Gary Gibbs, has a book on that why don’t we send that?

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm.

Pastor Doug: There’s a booklet that we’ll send you and it’s simply called “The Abomination of Desolation”

Jim: Alright.

Pastor Jëan Ross: And it explains that in chapter 12. Let me give you the resource number for that it’s 1800-835-6747 and Jim, just ask for the booklet “Abomination of Desolation” and we’ll be happy to send that out to you. And it’s a very deep study but at least that will give you some kind of a background. Pastor Doug, I have found that verse that we were looking for just a little earlier.

Pastor Doug: Delivered in child bearing? What does it say?

Pastor Jëan Ross: Yeah. The reason we couldn’t find it is because, The King James uses the word, “Shall be saved in child bearing” and we were both looking at “Delivering” but it’s at 1 Timothy 2:15, “Notwithstanding she (the woman) shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.” that’s 1 Timothy 2:15.

Pastor Doug: Ok. And I trust Betsy was listening and she jotted that down.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Alright, our next caller then is Lyn. And Lyn is calling from Michigan Plymouth, Michigan, listening on 103.5. Lyn, welcome to the program.

Lyn: Yes, Hi. I just had a quick question. Divorce, what does it say in the Bible about divorce? I’m new to it, so…

Pastor Doug: Well you know, there is a Biblical grounds for divorce, if you look in Matthew 5:19, Jesus said that “There is no cause for a remarriage if a person has been divorced, unless the offending spouses violated the marriage vows.” And that’s I’m sorry, I said Matthew 5:19, its Matthew 5:31 and then its Matthew 19:8 Jesus said, “Whoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement. But I say to you, whoever shall put away his wife saving for (in other words except for) the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery and whoever marries her that is divorced commits adultery.” So, if someone is divorced without Biblical grounds and those grounds are violating the marriage vows by committing adultery, you know, people say, “Well you know, we got irreconcilable differences” that’s not Biblical grounds for divorce. So,

Lyn: Ok.

Pastor Doug: You know, we have a study guide that deals with the subject of marriage and if you’d like we’ll send you a free copy of that.

Lyn: Ok now, what if it’s the spouse that is wanting to do all this, does this still affect you? Because, you can’t you know, work it out because he wants to leave?

Pastor Doug: Well, if you know, Paul says in 1 Corinthians chapter 7 that “If your spouse ceases to be a believer and he leaves you, if you’re abandoned and they choose to divorce and you don’t want to.” I mean obviously you can’t handcuff somebody to the house.

Lyn: Right.

Pastor Doug: In those cases, it says “Let them depart” you can’t force them. But it appears when you compare the scriptures, that person is still not free to remarry. Unless your husband that abandons you goes out and find somebody else.

Lyn: Ok

Pastor Doug: Because what you do by remarrying is you destroy any hope of reconciliation. Does that make sense?

Lyn: Yes, it does.

Pastor Jëan Ross: The Study Guide that you mentioned Pastor Doug, for any married couple that wants to get more out of their marriage, it’s called “Keys for a Happy Marriage” and it deals with some biblical principles on how the marriage can be everything God intended it to be.

Pastor Doug: Yeah. It’s got a lot to say about how to restore it. And you know, we probably need to “Write and Provide” we get so many questions about the subject of divorce and remarriage.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-Hmm

Pastor Doug: A biblical Study Guide.

Pastor Jëan Ross: an addition of resource for that.

Pastor Doug: Yeah.

Pastor Jëan Ross: To receive the Study Guide call 1800-835-6747 ask for the Study Guide “Key’s for a Happy Marriage”. We’re gonna try and get 1 or 2 more callers in Pastor Doug, before we run out of time. Marcia is listening on W.M.U.C. from Michigan, Dearborn Michigan. Marcia, welcome to the program.

Marcia: Yes, Good Evening Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross. Thank you for (Inaudible 54:52) taking my call and having me on the show. My question is one that one of my tenants asked, he wanted to know how long is the time, I told him that Bible’s filing on this but I want him to hear your answer. I hope he’s still listening to Amazing Facts I’m not home there to see if he’s listening. But this question was, how long will be the time be from the time the wicked tried to take the Holy City and the fire comes out to devour them.

Pastor Doug: Ok. Marcia is asking about the time period in Revelation 20, between when the wicked are resurrected and there’s the devil evidently tries to muster them. The only clue were given it says, “Satan is loose from his prison for a season” now we don’t know long that has. You know, you’re look in the life of Moses. It says, “Moses refused to suffer affliction with the people of God, I chose to suffer affliction with the people of God, rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season.” We’ll that season there was you know, 40, 80 years most his life once he walked away from Egypt. So, we don’t know how it is but evidently it’s enough time it may be a matter of months, it may be 40 days, it’s enough time for Satan to martial the resurrected Gog and Magog, “The Lost” to attack the city of God. And we just would be speculating, ‘cause the word season is an unspecific period of time. But it’s more than a day it’s probably less than a millennium.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Mm-hmm.

Pastor Doug: So,

Pastor Jëan Ross: Let’s see if we can get in our last caller Pastor Doug. Stephanie is listening on the internet calling on a cell phone. Stephanie, are you there?

Stephanie: Yes I am. Can you hear me?

Pastor Doug: Real quick, we got 30 seconds. (Laughing)

Stephanie: My question is to you Pastor Doug, I was listening to one of your sermons on “The Millennium” and you talked about, there not being any new marriages in the kingdom. And it kind of distressed me a little. Because, well, I haven’t found Mister Right and I had a

Pastor Doug: Oh don’t be distressed Stephanie, I apologize we’re gonna have to cut you off there. Don’t be distressed about that I can promise you, that when you get to heaven Mister Right’s gonna be there. Your question might be is, “Will we be having children?” Well, the new earth is gonna be populated with the redeemed and I hope you and everybody listening are one of those.

Pastor Jëan Ross: Absolutely.

Pastor Doug: Friends, this is the tail end of Bible Answers Live, but let me just interject this is a Faith Ministry we would love to hear from you. Check us out on our website amazingfacts.org. God Bless till next week.

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